There’s quite a few. It depends on the game you play. Diablo II’s PvP community before I let go of my summoner necromancer was chuck full of them.
That said they are (or were, dunno been out of touch) more along the line of the garden variety of the idiots I’ve taken on though, none who were over-the-top sexist. Using the word “faggot” among others to make a point was extremely common and annoyed the living fuck out of me. You’d think they’d be more inventive…
I judge a player by how good they are (although that’s rarely - it’s usually through social interaction), and how they interact with the community, not by how high-pitched their voice is on the microphone.
That said, the women that I’ve played with, are a blast to play with in my experience. Hell most of my memorable gaming moments were with girls on the servers I play(ed) on.
I do wish there were more openly female gamers that played commonly and weren’t afraid to say that they are. I’ve made a few life-long female friends through the games I’ve played.
TL;DR: Gamer girls are awesome.
Also: It’s disrespectful behavior that people usually go for that inclines me to stick to single player games often, usually with the people I trust.
The gaming industry is a male-dominated one. I hate to say, but it is. However, that’s starting to change, albeit agonizingly slowly.
on an unrelated note, I will one day make my dream of a game about a bus driver woman from peru or india who fights a platoon of hulking homoerotic golems
I mostly play HLDM, and I rarely get those breed of idiots, so I guess that’s more proof we’re better than everyone else (joking).
I think alot of gamer girls are afraid because they probably believe these lies about the community, which is sad, because it just isn’t true. Also, gaming stereotypically isn’t considered very feminine, so that could be another reason.
There’s so many other factors that can be into play. Hours, skill, experience, etc. As for why shouldn’t a construction worker make the same as a teacher, that’s another argument all together.
Sorta related: FUCK, I really started a fire by bringing this up, lol.
Never said Sexism doesn’t exist in the world. There ARE those sickos who exist in everyday society. I’m sure we can all agree that those kinds of people deserve to be shot.
It depends on the region you’re referring to affects how tolerable the gender & race climate is. Some areas are worse than others. The reason I say “gender” and not “male” or “female” because I’m sure there are those areas that have some - mind you that’s a map about racism. Too lazy to find a graph on Sexism through out the world.
Generally the more developed and higher income the area is, the more tolerable people live there. Mind you there are those pricks who stand out from the rest…
I find out about shit like that second hand and it makes my blood boil. Don’t get me started on it.
Yeah, Valve games have a different breed, and that populace can be managed better than in Diablo II’s.
True. Usually if you play on a server that promotes a friendly environment, they’ll pipe up eventually.
Believe it or not, I talked with my sister at length about this on an hour-long car ride home from a charity event.
I’m inclined to agree with her: If you look at developed society (hell most of the more respectable ends of the internet), it’s extremely feminist, even the male portion. “Feminist” as in accepting of women being equals, not girly-girl.
If you ask me what would I do if he started flirting with a girl and acting like she’s just a piece of meat, you’d bet your ass I’d step in. I’m sure most respectable guys would. That is what I mean by feminist.
If you don’t believe me, look up all the laws around the world from different developed demographics like the UK or the US. There’s laws protecting women from harassment and other shit like that in both circumstances. Couple that with every respectable gentlemen who’s sober, will step in to help a woman in need. You get the picture.
In short: Society’s been feminized. Look it up, it doesn’t mean girly-girl in this circumstance.
Also: This isn’t a flame war, it’s a heated discussion, no one’s gone ALL CAPS RAGE or the equivalent… yet. You should ignore Idi. He’s proven time and again that he’s an idiot.
Oh that’s what he linked to? I have no clue where Ram (I know I’ll fuck up his name) got the impression that I am denying sexism in the world. It exists, in all sorts of different forms, in different places, no question about it. But what he, Idi, and others who have the thought that the gaming community as a whole is misogynistic is an idiotic assessment.
Also, I think the laws shouldn’t protect women from being harassed by men, but they should protect people from being harassed by people. Men can be harassed by other men or by women. Yes, for those of you who don’t know, a man can be a victim of a woman. And there’s nothing wimpy or cowardly about him.
And yeah, I don’t have much faith in Idi either, lol. He’s compromised himself.
Yeah, I forgot to say it goes both ways. Still I’m inclined to agree with you. I’d step in in either circumstance if they needed it. There’s also the circumstance were I WOULD defend myself if I was being assaulted by any individual and restraint was not an option.
You’ve made yourself look like an idiot more than once, and about 90% of the time you yourself don’t lend any credibility to the tin-foil hat-worthy arguments you usually make. That is, if I read it right.
thanks bro :->
alls im saying is ‘gamer culture’ being a culture informed primarily by video games, an especially male dominated sector of the mainstream media of a still very patriarchal society might end up reflecting some of that bias.
i think its bad that we have a culture where peoples opportunities in life are profoundly effected by random factors over which they have no control and i think we should try and understand the systems by which that is perpetuated and reinforced such as the media so that it can be countered and dismantled and everyone can be as free and equal as they deserve but maybe yall dont???
idk where u are but here for example 146 members of parliament out of 650 are women and in the states less than a fifth of members of the senate and house of representatives are women. four percent of fortune 500 companies are ran by women. does this sound like a society where power is equally divided among the genders? and thats before even beggining to wade into like violence against women and shit.
the thing is every inch closer to equality for any persecuted group has been fought for tooth and nail and every step of the way there were dudes saying ok we did it everythings fine now stop fucking up my videogames
well if thats true its not because of some weird biological reason like i feel as if your getting at but that they correctly perceive that that system was never meant to serve their best interests or represent them.
In some ways, it is biological. In many animals, including us humans, males take a dominant role, fighting other males, marking territory, bringing food for others to eat, etc. Females give birth, raise their offspring, feeding them milk, etc, so it was in the species’ best interest to have the stronger of the two, which was the male, to guard the weaker female and their children to ensure survival of the species. This is the standard in many animals and is how humans lived back when we were wild animals.
Of course, we live in a civilized society now, so there is no need to have these ancient ways of life in our society, but instinct is instinct, so this could be a reason why not alot of females seem interested in government positions and likewise, not alot of males seem interested in nursing positions.
The whole point of civilization is to get away from the shit animals do. We keep animals as pets.
Jokes.
We put glue on their heads and throw plastic balls at them and confuse them because its cute.
We kill them for fun.
Somewhere in space a race of turbo-equal genderless ghouls who stand 9 feet tall and mate by fencing liquids into one another
will come to this earth and treat us as we treat the animals we say we are not.
They will either give us shavings of their dna so that we may become bio-enlightened and prosper as they do, or they will murder us with a cleansing blaze of napalm gravy
Our goal as a unit should be to become that race
so that when they do visit, we can be friends
or even become so mighty that we are above even them
long story short: don’t blame your shitty ape chemicals for making you hate girls you sickening nerd.
females are pressured into thinking they can’t be useful by the society that has been sculpted around the idea that the ones with dicks
are the ones in charge. Go watch some honeymooners and tell me alice isn’t the smarter of the kramdens
primitive societies had all sorts of different ways of distributing power including matriarchies and anyway in our modern society if we understand that the imbalance of power is based entirely on one groups greater capacity to inflict physical violence on dinosaurs or whatever doesnt that seem like kinda fucked and something we should sort. if the problem is purely that women are less interested in power within the current framework than it is necessary to create one where that is not the case. i suspect however that there are plenty of women who want positions of greater influence but are excluded in favor of men
dudes on the wrong side of history have always made bullshit appeals to biology to support their reactionary garbage. women were “too emotional” to vote, slaves were too “dumb” to be free, and jews were “naturally greedy parasites feeding off of good european christians”
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you do realize that human societies have been matriarchal for most of its existence?
it’s only for the past 6000 years or so that most societies have been explicitly patriarchal, as far as the evidence shows
in fact, it’s most probable that originally, humans were matriarchal; women were the base of society while men went out and did menial labour like hunting and fishing
i can’t believe some of you guys are saying “most x do y” and accepting it as some sort of absolute truth
any “general preference” women and men may have toward certain jobs or activities are entirely culturally based, evidenced by the fact that there are no known gender-based behavioural patterns that are universal regardless of culture or time
this discussion is a perfect example of how sexism and other sorts of discrimination are still firmly entrenched in our collective subconscious, more so because it’s denied by those who perpetuate it
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(joking).
That is, if I read it right.