Swine Flu

It matters a lot. You shouldn’t assume you’re safe from locusts because the past two years were good.

Where the fuck do you find locusts? Egypt?

rofl…
anyway. Yea swine flu is barley different than the regular flu my Old man is in the USAF medical branch (thingy) and no body is at all that concerned about it. Especially since there is already a vaccine to it (er 2 of em that are both required)… So for you conspiracy theorists out there go get your shots they do work and its not the government trying to rip you off… Duh you cheap bastards… :freeman:

EDIT: how ever for us people who dont like needles… shit 2 of them for 1 sickness. :’(

Yes, Egypt is included.

Tiki I don’t think they fully understand that the FIRST WAVE is always small its the second and third waves that are worse.

To the others, this Flu is KILLING HEALTHY PEOPLE not sickly and they are all in their 20-40’s, this is Important as the Flu normally effects Very young and elderly.

Also I remember back 2 years ago them finding a Body in the Antarctic WHICH HAD THE 1918 Swine flu and they wanted to reverse engineer it. It was in Scientific America I believe. I do wonder personally if they didn’t succeed in reengineering it and somehow it got out, similar to the hoof and mouth disease in England.

Here is a similar article I called up, I was wrong it was back in 2005 so more like 4 years ago but there is another one that spoke of reverse engineering it.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/news/oct0505studies.html

Also keep in Mind that there is a 24hour period where the person LOOKS FINE but is a carrier of the Virus so you can get infected at a rapid rate once it mutates. Also when the outbreak DOES take place, all the stuff you would need, facemasks, gloves, and disinfectant will all be sold out or at prices unbelievable.

Seriously I am not saying to LIVE IN FEAR but to error on the side of caution and prepare NOW, it only costs very little to have the supplies mentioned above plus some extra water and food, as quarantine in these cases could last several days. To all those acting silly and making jokes, it’s NOT something to kid about or make light of. I’m not saying for sure this is the BIG one as they call it at WHO and the CDC, but this Flu has the BEST chance of being so out of ALL the viruses that we have seen yet!

Yes I would like to play the mod, but also I am now MORE concerned over the ignorance and lack of concern of this Flu, and I am concerned for the Members of this forum now. I was not expecting these kinds of responses on the Flu. PLEASE gather the few items you need NOW before the outbreak, Most of the Items have NO SHELF LIFE and can be saved if the outbreak doesn’t happen now but the unknown future. The food, its good to have extra that can be stored for ANY type of emergency, so nothing would be wasted.

The Flu may be nothing, then again it may NOT, is it really worth the risk to just save some money for a PS2 game? What happens when Billions KNOW it’s an outbreak when it happens? Are you going to the store then or buying what you need online then? Mail will shut down until a system for decontamination can be in place. Level 6 is important it means Governments can impose Martial Law, Shut Banks, Stores, Internet down and Force Mandatory Vaccines and if there isn’t enough you WILL be quarantined in your Home or a special facility. Nor is there any promise it will WORK, it’s a shot in the dark, not to mention 10% will have a severe response from the shots alone or the possibility it can mutate worse with those with the Shots. There are many possibilities and only a couple good ones.

Anyway I am just sharing what I was told in my conversations with those who DO know what they are talking about, and they are WORRIED.

Blah blah blah, live in fear.

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Also, I feel quite safe. Most pandemic-type things in the past 10 years have barely affected Belgium. And if and when it truly becomes a danger, the government will take the necessary precautions and make the necessary warnings to civilians.

You’d think so, but you’d be wrong.

And how exactly does one prepare for the second and third waves? Running around in circles? Hiding under tables? Duck and cover?

Correction: The flu has killed some apparently healthy people. Firstly, this number is an extreme minority of deaths caused by swine flu. Secondly, just because we don’t know if they had an underlying condition doesn’t mean they didn’t have one, or some other reason why they were more susceptible to the flu. If you examine each case, I am sure you will be able to find a reason as to why the flu killed them. And thirdly, deaths from swine flu are extremely small compared to the total number infected, meaning that the chance of you dying is very small even if you DO have an underlying condition, and if you don’t its so minute its not worth considering.

Yes, they reversed engineered it to help them fight the Avian flu. They didn’t weaponise it or anything like that, if that’s what you are implying.

So basically what you’re saying is that as soon as the virus mutates in ONE place (which it may not), everyone will flock to chemists, so we should all rush to chemists now when there’s no call for it at all and start mass panic? OR, perhaps, we should install contingency plans for the unlikely eventuality that it does happen, and in the mean time focus on being calm and going about our daily lives as normal because the chance of swine flu infecting us and killing us is slim to none.

The WHO and the CDC said exactly the same thing about avian flu. They were wrong.

You’re not saying live in fear, you’re just saying that we should buy up on enough food and water (WHY WATER??? IT COMES OUT OF THE TAP!) in case we’re locked in our houses for days/weeks. Because having huge amounts of supplies sitting in your corner isn’t going to make you afraid at all.

You’re saying to prepare for the end of the world. We’re saying that that wont happen. We’re stating facts, you’re stating alarmist propaganda and misinformed arguments.

PS2 games cost about $10 now. It would cost much more than that to stockpile enough food to last for weeks. And its not a monetary thing, its just a realistic thing. We don’t see that the risk from swine flu is that big, and at the moment, its really not. Why inspire mass panic when there is absolutely no call for it?

And why exactly will governments shut down the internet? What POSSIBLE justification could there be for that?

Your harms aren’t realistic, your arguments aren’t well founded, and your concepts are flawed. Good day to you.

And who are they? Because I think they should come here now so we can have a fully informed discussion.

The world isn’t going to end because of Swine Flu. The only reason Swine Flu is considered any different from regular flu is because it’s been hyped up so damned bad, and you were one of the ones to fall for it.

jup. it’s new so ppl like to make it worse than it is. look at the avian flu. the counties who tried to prottect themself the most was the ones that it didn’t come to. take norway as a big example on that one :smiley:

@Firefly:

Because the government is REALLY going to impose martial law, and large group quarantine. I mean, when there is a flu pandemic, grouping hundreds of people together is just a FANTASTIC solution, it doesnt aggravate the problem ONE BIT.

Whilst yes this is a fact, you seem to think that the second and third waves are going to create some kind of 28-days later apocolyptic world where the infected are shot on sight, and the living rape the shit out of each other.
Instead of keeping calm and acting like a rational human being, you instead take to the forums to promote right-wing, end-of-the-world, fear-spreading propoganda, when what you should REALLY be doing is just getting on with life, just with a little extra caution.

Given that you continue to “spread the word” that the world is tumbling into a gigantic swine-flu-infected bin-full of shite, even after sane people have laid out sound reasoning that actually, you sound like a bit of a bell-end, I am forced to conclude:
Obvious troll is obvious.

To be honest, everyone should be more worried about being hit by a car. A lot more dangerous and a lot more likely.

Yup.

If I get Swine Flu, I won’t cry and start writing my will. I’ll go get some Tamaflu. :smiley:

If you want to prepare, the only thing I could think of would be getting those surgical masks which became trendy after SARS. Otherwise, just avoid big social gatherings where you’re more likely to catch a cold. No harm in being antisocial.

Worrying about Black Mesa is ridiculous. These developers don’t have any friends to contract a disease from.

I wouldn’t say widespread contamination as so unlikely. There’s an article that was written only a couple of weeks ago, and the title says it all: World Health Officials Say Two Billion People May Contract Swine Flu

But I agree it’s not worth worrying or panicking about. Nor are automobiles, for that matter. If it will spread, que sera sera. Just take a second and look both ways twice before you cross the street. If you’re ambivalent about attending a social event, you may as well not go.

I bet you were one of those guys that got worked up about SARS as well.

It’s killing less people then the regular flu, and it’s a lot less common, so to be honest, I’m going to try to avoid the regular flu as usual, and not change a thing.

On the 1918 Flu if you don’t think they have or are trying to weaponize your foolish, not saying this flu is that, but to think scientist wouldn’t want to SEE what they could do with it is naive.

As to the End of the world I never said that, I did say the Pandemic has the ability to be the worse yet. What’s the harm in preparing ahead of time? Especially MINOR common sense preparation?

No I wasn’t worried about SARS or AVIAN Flu at the time.

As to me not providing facts, please BUY a book about the 1918 Flu and how this Flu and that seem to be similar, hence what got me wondering on the reverse engineering, heck even if it was for Study it could still get out of the lab.

As to the people I spoke with could care less about you or this forum, they are only focused on their work. Personally most I spoke with think the world is overpopulated anyway, so I guess your responses would be in line with their thinking that some are incapable of surviving based on Darwin’s Theory.

Well I tried, I can safely say you all deserve what you get! Anyone stupid enough to say wait till you are warned on TV is insane. That’s like living in Earthquake areas and not having a 72 hour kit. I watch the Deer where I live and when they hear Danger (a click) they all RUN and Hide to survive, but then about 2-3 minutes later they forget and think the danger is gone, then they get Shot by the hunter. Same with some people……

I never heard of attacking someone who is genuine on trying to help, Fear mongering is saying we are all going to die and its going to happen for a fact tomorrow, etc. I never said any of those things. Just because I said something that Scares a lot of you, you decided to ATTACK me personally. Funny its like telling someone the Dam has some Cracks and it MAY break sometime soon, and instead of checking it out or preparing for the eventuality of it. The people yell and call names the person who warned them.

BTW I relayed this posting to some of the people I know, and I do hope they drop by to educate you guys, but the first thing they told me is “Let the Idiots die, they are meant to”. Also the Age group here seems to be 18 – 35 years.

I’m done here, not all but a lot of you here are just Punk Kids who think you know everything just like every generation, only to learn the hard way.

You had me until this ^.

I hate people who use age as a factor in an argument… Probably because I’m 16 :slight_smile:

 Kids these days!

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