lol thx, can’t catch them all! I thought if you were holding one, that its cone of vision shouldn’t include you, especially if your not up against any objects.
I did a search for sentry and bug, but didn’t see anything posted, didn’t realize it was already posted sry.
it also says “This is a COMMUNITY DRIVEN (i.e. not official) account created in order to help Black Mesa Source developpers to find and solve bugs. If you find a bug into Black Mesa Source, feel free to add it here.”
so how does having the bug in 2 locations help the devs?
Having the bug in two locations DOES NOT help the devs at all. However, having the bugs on the forum does not help the devs either, since they aren’t able to extensively categorize and sort these bugs.
In the end, this make a huge overbloated forum section with ~3000 bugs already, and counting. Being a developer (not one of Black Mesa Source however) myself, I can ASSURE you that it’s useful, and that I’m not mirroring all these bugs just for the fun.
If ONLY people would report bugs ONLY on the bug tracker, that would help a lot. But since official BMS developers are apparently really busy and can’t come here, nothing official can be said nor done.
If you want to understand better what a bug tracker is and how it is better than a forum, please read that.
I’m not stupid. I know that most users aren’t even able to read a single line of code, and are too lazy to read more than two lines on wikipedia.
I know that you still doubt the reason why I do so. I also know that if you took the time to actually SEARCH the forum for references about this, you would have found that I’m not the only one that think that a bug tracker WILL actually HELP solving bugs. I may not have the agreement from every single black mesa developer, right.
Nevertheless, I start to find most users on this forum pretty pedantic, and I could also stop trying to help, remove any efforts I have done already and let you all “help” the developers by adding your own personal unique (yet many times duplicated) bug to the freaking overbloated heap of crap which is this part of the forum.
eep… well that was taken completely outa context, and took it so personally, but if we’re going down that road :S… surely if it is needed, the dev’s would of set one up… or are already doing this themselves… and as you said about you and others thinking… wouldn’t that imply that this is an opinion? also why insult the fan base by calling them lazy. and why would i search for an opinion about a bug tracker I didn’t know existed until you posted links on 5/6 other threads to post elsewhere might as well PM me… now, saves the forum getting cluttered.
Just to add my two cents to the “Bugs cannot be sorted or listed…” matter:
You do realise, that Forums are based on (SQL) databases and that each post can be ‘read’ by a script or an application, summing up their contents and such?
So, what ‘we’ have with bitbucket, could be very similiar to an application the developer team uses internally.
They could very well have a monitoring program in place, which records and evaluates each thread and post that is made, adding the information to different lists and databases.
The stored information can then be used by a developer in a means to assure higher quality by fixing the exploit, bug, ecetera.
Usually the scenario is re-created, according to the users description, then passed over to one of the responsible team members, which then attempts to fix the issue, if it occurs in a certain manner.
Which is why there are people who solely focus on quality assurance.
Said people sometimes even have a program or software for that.
The devs aren’t stupid, but I guess that after spending so many years on this project, they might want to stand back a little.
Also, as another user already pointed out, they didn’t use a bug tracker yet, apparently because they underestimated the number of incoming reports.
It’s not my intention to insult the fan base at all, but from what I’ve seen while reporting all these bugs, I’ve seen a couple of trolls and flaming (to say the least). So, okay, I was pissed and said “most of” instead of “some of”, I recognize it. Yet I wasn’t pissed off for nothing : I know what I am doing, thank you very much.
And I, like you all, am doing my best to help BMS developers. That is, I, unlike you all, am doing it in a usual (in the IT world) fashion, the way other developers do it.
I realize that very well. Yet, why reinvent the wheel? Bug trackers already exist, and “scripting” one upon the forum would just be waste of time, especially when the transfer from the forum to the bug tracker can be automatized (I’m doing it by hand 'cause I don’t have the rights to do otherwise, and ONLY for that).
By script I did not mean a script you click or run each time a post or thread is made.
Maybe I shouldn’t have written “script”.
A monitoring program is usually running 24/7 on the server, which is why it is a “monitoring program” - it monitors, stores and evaluates new data - fully automated!.
Some programs even store their information in Excel sheets (thread name, posted by, date, getpos coordinates, map name, file name, file location, MDMP crash report files, etc.), making it relatively easy for the person who is responsible for re-producing, then passing over the issue / bug / exploit / ecetera.
Mostly you have a user-interface application, which is given to all the developers - said program can access the database the previously mentioned software stores its information into.
But still, all the ‘fuzz’ about a monitoring software and such could be very well false - maybe the team doesn’t even use such things (yet) - who knows.
One of the advantages over a standard forum (like this one), that I can see, would be the fact that users themselves would be able to see if the bug they are about to open a new thread about, has already been posted and thus prevents them from creating duplicate reports.
In some cases users just don’t use the search feature of a forum, or even bother about using it, since the fastest and easiest way of getting help seems to be submitting an entirely new thread and adding it to the three (3) that described (and maybe even solved!) the exact same issue, about two (2) days ago.
Again, no offense intended!
Now, back to the topic, please (if you want to discuss the matter any further, please send me a PM about it. Thank you.)…
well, I called it that mainly cause of the achievement, if you pick them up they will shoot everything including marines, I think anyway
edit - Tactics
Except for its 360° rotating gun, the sentry doesn’t move, so looking for a way around to avoid crossing its line of sight is a good move. Also, it is possible to damage the sentry with conventional weapons or even knocking it over with another physics object [2].
If the player manages to close enough to a turret to grab it with the use key, Gordon will pick it up and reprogram it so it shoots every living thing in front of it, including HECU Marines, enabling the player to use it as an improvised weapon.
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