natural disasters just dont have the same effect on people as something like a terrorist attack because they dont have a narrative that people and the media can connect with on the same level
Yeah, a shitload more people died in the 2004 tsunami but no one gives a fuck anymore.
Terrorists have more charisma than a natural disaster.
^this.
Personally I don’t really remeber it, tbh.
So if you’re raped by someone with style. It’s worse than being raped by someone normal? Okay nevermind this discussion is just weird.
Nature isn’t “someone”, so…
I don’t remember, i was 5 then.
a shitload of people have died in other terrorist attacks as well, but americans act like 9/11 was the hugest event ever and demand the entire world to recognize it.
not saying it was insignificant (so don’t delete my post again :meh 
, but if americans really find terrorism to be that much of a terrible thing, why do they only care when it happens to them?
I blame 9/11 on risky architecture. I can’t imagine a world today where those towers would remain safe… the Sears Tower is a cluster of buildings (of varying heights) much sturdier in design. Ultimately, the top of a building should always be smaller than its base.
When it comes to being a tall structure, this one did it right:[indent][/indent]
105 floors, in the form of a webbed tripod. It loses interior real-estate (compared to its base size) with such a shape, but it’s a necessary tradeoff to avoid leaving a building subject to some major tragedy like we saw nine years ago.
Even before that, the base of the structure was attacked with explosives. It’s not as if every building must be planned to withstand a sudden massive act of violence… but the tower’s design actually had a history of looking like a target to those terrorists, because of its monolithic height. Its contents were not unique, but its shape and size was.
Oh right, I forgot to mention: Eighth grade; My school covered up 9/11. I heard rumours from somebody in gym, my last class of the day, that a building had been hit by an aircraft (because he had the 1 teacher who actually made note of what was happening during class).
There was no mention of the event the next day, 9/12. The only acknowledgement came on 9/13, a short expression of sympathies over the intercom.
Testicles in your face, Glenn Beck… testicles in your face.
I am really disappointed with the up and coming generation. Not only do I see how they are incapable to empathize about something so tragic, but some seem to relish in their stupor. wow. I bet some of you guys would laugh as your grandma lie dieing on her deathbed. 
Well I’ve already told you a few months ago how I feel about that stuff.
As for everyone else, I guess the reason I “blow 9/11 out of proportion” is because I lost family members that day. Reading bullshit comments from self-righteous hypocrites is why I generally stay out of the massdebating hall. Only reason I’m here now is because I sympathize with anyone here who lost loved one’s that day.
I remember my fifth grade teacher coming into the classroom and telling the class about something…(I’m lucky if I can Remember much before 2004) then other students started leaving the classroom till all that were left were me and a few friends. I didn’t really Comprehend the gravity of the situation (then again, what 10-year-old would?) until the next day when there was nothing on TV except coverage of the attacks.
I was in 3rd grade at the time I still lived in North Carolina I remember they sent us home early with no explanation and my parents never really explained what happened. I never really watched anything about it til I was around 14 as well so I guess it really hit me then what happened I was too young to care at 8 about it but at 14 that really got me down. Luckily unlike most of the kids in my school I don’t blame Muslims in general but Muslim extremists, so I’m not full of hate about it.
i am really disappointed with ignorant americans who act like 9/11 was the worst or ONLY terrorist attack to ever exist and get pissed when people point out that it’s simply not the case.
if people expect everyone to recognize 9/11, recognize other countries tragedies as well. or at the very least don’t get pissed if people call you out on your glaring hypocrisy.
Discussing US ego-centricism is probably better done in another thread.
just going to ask right now, has there already been a thread about that? if not, i’ll make one when i wake up. that gets under my skin so fucking much.
Yes but do we really need a thread of people saying “indeed” until someone gets offended and everyone starts insulting the person so much that it eventually has to get locked? Who am I kidding, that’s what almost every thread here is.
Indeed.
How exactly has the US not been recognizing other countries tragedies? Look at our primary news sources. CNN and FOX both have articles of natural disasters, terrorist attacks, and every other form of tragedy around the world every day. You know we do read the papers and watch the news. Our presidents travel to other countries constantly to offer aid.
If it’s aid spending you’re looking for, according to the Census Bureau:
In 2007 the US Government spent $31,779,000,000 in Grants and credits and $41,940,000,000 in economic and military aid. That’s a total of nearly 74 billion in aid in a single year. This number includes only government spending and doesn’t include ANY donations made by the people of the country.
You come off as more of an angry, uninformed child rather than someone who has a legitimate argument. If it makes you happy, I’ll post a remembrance thread for whatever tragedy of your choosing on said day if it satisfies whatever you consider an appropriate “recognition.”
People mourning their dead at a breast cancer rally won’t really appreciate protesters coming screaming about how unfair it is to AIDS casualties, so leaving this thread clean would be a smart thing to do.
As for your idea of a thread, there is absolutely nothing to say in it which will change anyone’s mind here, so there is absolutely no use for it. People are made in a way that they only react emotionally to something close to them, be it a symbolic attack against their perceived sense of national safety, a house burning down two blocks away or an earthquake killing millions. You’re not going against human nature and saying humans are stupid isn’t any less dumb.
As for me, on that day I just had come home from our equivalent of college-prep school, throwing my ass on the chair to play some UT and pirate some music. I was all alone at home this afternoon, started to chat a bit with friends on ICQ (haha old school) until one of them said that I should turn on the TV. Turning on the tiny and old TV above the computer closet, it was just merely a weird piece of news at this point; it was really early after the first crash and I thought about an awful accident. Then I watched in awe something that was just not supposed to happen: the second plane crashing. I couldn’t get my eyes from the TV for hours; today I still stand really humbled by our very nature of passive animals watching incredible stuff happen until we can finally register them as true.
I have no shame to say that, being a foreigner, not once did I feel terror, sadness or any kind of negative feeling towards what happened. It was just all too unbelievable, completely dumbfounding. Late that night I couldn’t get the images out of my head, thinking that a lot of things wouldn’t be the same from that day on.
Today I still can’t believe it happened 9 years ago, it feels so much more recent.
EDIT : clarification, spelling
saying “oh this happened, lets talk about it once then never talk about it again” is NOT what i’m talking about. the us cannot expect every country to still give a shit about what was not even the worst attack in history nine nears after it happened. i mean seriously. if we’re going to force our “HOLY SHIT, 9/11 HAPPENED” onto the whole world we could at the very least recognize other terrorist attacks in other countries.