ITT: You ask Kaze questions concerning bodybuilding and general fitness.

You think you do.

My great grandfather, 2 uncles, and great-great grandfather were anywhere from 6’3-6’8.

My grandfather? 5’7.

My father? 6’0.

Me? 5’11.

Don’t ever, ever assume you just have certain genetics.

My recommendations can usually be found at:

https://www.stopbeingapansyanddealwithituntilyourskinactuallytoughensupyoubigpuss.com

Gloves are for people who have to feel productive in the gym but not actually be productive. They do nothing but make your grip weak, and soften your mental toughness because you couldn’t handle a few blisters. I’ve lifted with second degree burns on the palm of my right hand before, just grab your balls and remember you don’t have a vagina and don’t need to act as such.

I think this thread is no longer providing good advice.

You shouldn’t be getting a bunch of blisters no matter how much bragging it provides. Using gloves through intense exercise would allow you to gradually build up manly calluses (instead of fruitlessly injuring your dermis, exposing you to illness). So it allows a more productive workout as you needn’t worry about the condition of your palms.

If you want to lift with second degree burns for the sake of “mental toughness”, you’re about as smart as those druggies who punch into glass and neglect the feeling of glass-on-tendon.

Relating the earlier discussion on height, I’m 6’4" and perfectly satisfied. An eight foot ceiling may be touched with both hands, with both feet flat on the ground.
Kaze’s tall friends must lack the stamina to endure clustered environments (like Subaru interiors). I may very comfortably pilot a Mazda 3. I have travelled in the rear of a small Saturn station wagon. A moderate level of flexibility is always sufficient.

What the hell? 6’2". Isn’t even super tall. I’m 6’1 and most the people on my campus are around my size or taller. I’ve never found being 6’1" uncomfortable and I’m sure another inch wouldn’t hurt me.

First of all, I think I already told you once your input is not wanted nor valid here, but allow me to completely water down and deduce your spew once again, for the sake of correcting misinformation.

Blisters and callouses come as a part of lifting, shit fucking happens. Thousands of other guys out there, including myself, dealt with it so I’m sure Max can too. You, on the other hand, offer a biased perspective from the pussified world of prissy bitch-men, and once again come in here trying to impress people because you know the names of a couple of layers of skin and can act like you have a PhD by saying “exposing you to illness”. Using gloves, as you apparently don’t know, weakens your grip and are an invalid tool unless you have legitimate grip problems (i.e: a medical condition).

This thread is no longer providing good advice? What the fuck do you know about bodybuilding, or even the very basics of lifting in general? Go ahead and post up your pictures of your gains, your numbers for the big 3, your measurements. We’ll see who gives the better advice not only from experience, but from general knowledge.

Yeah, because I wanted to lift with the burns right? I totally asked for them for the sole reason because I love the pain. No, in fact, I kept lifting because apparently my balls are slightly bigger than most other people’s. A fucking palm injury isn’t going to keep me from working out for a few weeks and interfere with my gains simply because it hurts. Want to know something, smartass? It healed completely, normally, and my hand is fine now. You don’t do anything for the sake of mental toughness, mental toughness is what happens when you refuse to quit like a bitch when you know you can do better. You wouldn’t know that though, would you?

For the record, most of my friend have some meat on their bones, so they can’t be contorted like a rubber hose much like yourself.

Now, you may be wondering, and even ready to respond about, why exactly I came off so harshly. Here’s why:

I don’t for one appreciate someone who has run off at the mouth before and has a horrible posting reputation coming into my own thread and doing the same dumb shit he has everywhere else, but in a thread where that same person has absolutely no knowledge concerning the topic? That’s a bit much. I found it amusing that you, being the likely either skinny or obese piece you are, are going to try and invalidate me by trying to, at the same time, pussify everyone else. Look bud, nobody here seems to appreciate any of your posts, let alone ones where you are just talking out of your ass. I do believe this is a thread for bodybuilding, lifting, and fitness in general, not a thread for some wannabe novel scholar to start popping off at the mouth.

If you’re going to try and invalidate my word, bring some facts and experience with you next time. Until then, don’t bother replying. You should know by now nobody here takes anything you say as truthful word.

What kind of supplements do you take if any? I used to take whey protein back in the day. It seemed to make my muscles hurt less after a workout, but I’m not sure if that matters anyway. I stopped using it and actually got bigger afterwards, but then I was on a more consistent program afterwards too.

Edit: I should say that I’m not really interested in getting huge. I’m just asking mostly out of curiosity. I only work out to stay healthy and to look decent for the ladies, but I don’t care if I’m massive.

ANCHOR ARMS

Your first reply (plus the post trying to soothe your disdain) must have been deleted too soon to be seen.

I am quite willing to discuss the merits of gloves. I simply don’t believe “keep going even if your skin falls off” is sound advice for any repetitive activity, as redundancy amplifies the prominence of resolutions to such problems. Gloves are an answer. Is prolonged exertion capacity afforded by blister aversion not a valid trade-off for a slightly impeded grip?

So I did real squats today with weights. Went up to 45kg which I managed 5 reps of. Although I did feel that my balance was a bit wobbly on the way up. I have no idea if I have the right form or not, so many people are telling me different things. All I know is back straight, hips and ass out and feet flat on the floor.

Okay I’ll stay away from the gloves.
Just to be clear though, I’m not talking about blisters (I’ve got slight eczema on my hands, and thus do not get blisters). I ripped the skin on my fingers clean off. It’s a good lesson though to pay attention to what you are doing I guess. :stuck_out_tongue:

Again, because you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about, nor the importance of having and training for a strong grip (especially on deadlifts), I’m not going to even consider your opinions, or any further opinions you may have. You can go stroke your e-penis somewhere else and try to impress someone who cares, not me, not anyone else posting here.

And by the way bean, when you read this, I’ll mail you 20 bucks if you permaban this guy.

Supplements are overrated. The only supplements I use are a multivitamin, fish oil caps, and whey.

Nice try mate but my integrity is not for sale.

…by which I mean you’re low-balling me. Double it and then we’re talking.

Lol. Too right. Whoever came up with that idea deserves to be shot. Muscles that don’t work WTF?!

Raw_bean, I’ll give you an excuse to ban me if you cut me half of the payoff.

And, Kaze, it’s nice of you to act as if you ever considered my opinion, as if I could lose your faith on a rational mention of gloves after all we’ve been through! :3

Very well, let this turn of ignorance be a marker to all who pursue this man’s advice.
Here’s a quick, nonbiased glove testimonial with a bundle of reader comments:
https://munfitnessblog.com/my-new-experience-training-without-lifting-gloves/

Nonbiased? From what perspective, someone doing curls in the squat rack with 10 pounds on an EZ-Bar?

Here’s a nice few picks of the litter from your “bundle of reader comments”:

Every single other person that has commented on that is complaining about some minor pain and some callouses, all of which are negated by the fact none of these people know half of what “pain” really is in the weight room. It takes at most a couple of weeks for the skin on your hands to toughen up, maybe a couple more if you’re a pansy that hasn’t ever done manual labor before. People who bitch about how much their hands hurt after a “heavy” lifting session have never lifted heavy. I guarantee you that each and every one of those people crying about needing gloves to lift have made no progress worth even mentioning. Train like a bitch, gain like a bitch.

Now, are you going to continue to try and refute something that you know nothing about, can find no solid evidence against, and are truthfully completely blind to the concept of? Or are you going to, for the last time of being asked, get out of this thread for the rest of your (hopefully short-lived) time on this forum unless, by some divine chance, you have something useful to post?

You mock me for saying it’s nonbiased, and then you extract the comments arguing your point.

That’s why I linked to it. So they could escape our mudslinging and decide for themselves.

Yes, the article is biased. The person who wrote it is apparently clueless because they somehow managed to only now discover lifting without gloves. Meaning they most likely do curls for da gurlz in the squat rack.

There would be no “mudslinging” if you knew how to shut the fuck up.

I read the blog but not the reader comments. It sounded like that guy just confirmed what Kaze said. He also sounded like an amateur (if he was still doing things the same way he did them when he first started lifting).

Also this

lulz :retard:

And this:

Anyone can Google something that agrees with what they are saying on an internet forum. We appreciate people that have actual personal experience as opposed to those that are just playing the devil’s advocate. You could start your own thread about improper lifting techniques if you are so inclined to mislead people.

Don’t encourage him.

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