Israel vs Palestine

Both sides are using that excuse now, and it’s all very confusing. It’ll work itself out in the end.

If you want to insult a Jew, you’ve gotta be reasonable about it. Here’s a handy guide for insulting a Jew:
WRONG: Jews are cannibals and rapists.
RIGHT: II Samuel 12 : 31

Another good way to insult them is to scream “DID YOU EVEN READ THE TORAH?” before telling them about their religion, tucking a broom between your legs, and jumping around yelling about how you’re the “Devil Jew” come to “eat your babies”. Subtle, but it gets the point across.

The entire conflict is just immature. It’s like trying to settle a playground dispute between two children fighting over a toy. The only real solution is to break them up, not favour the other.

Kick them both out and give the land to Roma Gypsies o/

Yeah, and keep the toy for ourselves :stuck_out_tongue:

what a mean trick !

I hate that you can’t say anything bad about the blacks without being called a racist. They’re taking advantage of this whole “Oh we’re the victims here” excuse. [COLOR=‘Black’]douchebag

Actually, no. After WWII, there wasn’t a single country that was willing to take in jews that had nowhere to go.
So what was the solution? Dump them in Palestina!
The Palestinian people got violently kicked out of their own country and had nowhere else to go.
It was a good solution for us, because we didn’t have all these jews to deal with. It was a good deal for the jews because they had their own land and the means and the support to keep it and expand it.

I’m pretty sure the American people would still be fighting for at least some of their land if they got robbed of it 60 years ago.

Again, no. The real catalyst behind this is the end of WWII (and probably some other shit that happened before then too). The religion thing is little more than a rationalization for what they’ve done and are doing.

The hostility is largely a result of the whole Palestinian conflict.

^this, oh and did I mention that we have “arab” jews here ? they live peacefully in Egypt, Syria, and Saudi arabia. yes am for real !

Arabs and Jews are pretty damn close ethnically anyway.

pretty much, now those Zionist have no right to be here at all, if there was to be a land in Palestine it would be for the “local” Jews and we could’ve co-existed peacefully with each other. there’s a thing that really pisses me off in this matter it’s like, wtf with some Idiot from Russia or any other part of Europe have the right to ask for a land that it’s not his ?!

oh and btw did you know that when Zionists first planned to get a land it was to get Brazil rather than Palestine.

Too late to bitch about that now, the fact of the matter is there are two states there, and neither one is going anywhere.

Indeed. You can point fingers all you want, but it’s not going to change the current situation. Making sure everyone has the facts is a good step towards changing it, though.

Sarcasm?

I don’t think you saw what i did there

I did :expressionless:

I thought it was aimed at me?

Absolutely. Or rather, aimed at the argument you were making. Israel != “the Jews.” “Criticizing” a race of people for the actions of individuals (or governments) is the definition of racist.

Since when is criticism racist? Racist would be to say that all jews are inferior simply because they’re a different race. I simply said that the jews, in general, use this excuse a bit too often to my liking.

Yes they suffered during WW2, so what? Does that mean we can’t accuse them of war crimes when they commit them anymore? The only reason I didn’t say anything about the Palestinians committing war crimes is because nobody has a problem admitting that they do. Whereas - even today - accusing jews of war crimes still caries this stigma that you’re a racist and that they’ve suffered enough.

For fucks sake

You can accuse Israel of war crimes all you want, but equating Israel with “the Jews” is sheer asshattery. NOT ALL JEWS ARE ISRAELIS.

Criticizing “the Jews” for Israel’s conduct in war is exactly the same thing as criticizing “the Blacks” for war crimes in Darfur - racist.

eloquently put, good sir

I know that not all Israelis are jews, but the majority of Israelis are jewish. I’m so sorry I didn’t decide to break down the Israelis into their different constituent beliefs. And please, stop calling me a racist because you want to focus solely on semantics.

Obviously the christian and muslim percentages of the Israelis aren’t going to use the excuse of the jews, which is why I said jews instead of Israelis.

You seem to have mixed two disparate posts of mine, and mixed them up in your head. First I said that Israel is just as guilty of war crimes as Palestinia. And second I said I hate the fact that you can’t talk bad about the jews these days without being called a racist (which you did so thank you for proving my point).

Consider my post about the jews a little “subplot” if you will of the main story.

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