Israel vs Palestine

+1 for tourism, eh?

Is there some universal law or something that dictators* need to be goofy as fuck?

*I’m aware Achmachmedadinnenajad isn’t in charge

Um… Israel was declared a state after World War II. There shouldn’t be a debate; its officially Israel, not Palestine.

thats not right mate

Right. And thats not some made-up borders, thats them winning wars successfully and expanding territory. Not just claiming that its theirs.

whattt

well that’s ok then. people who lose wars that are wildly stacked against them don’t deserve basic human rights. good point

The UN created Israel. UN treaties state it’s illegal to expand territory through war. Israel claiming territory they captured by winning wars is exactly “some made up borders.”

However nobody is expecting them to give up that land, only to give up what they’ve taken since 1967.

What are you talking about? What “basic human rights”?

Israel won property fair-and-square… Sure, Palestinians can fight for land, thats their right. But until they officially win some land, they cant successfully claim its theirs.

EDIT: Mattemuse, if thats true than thanks for bringing some facts into the convo lol. In that case, Israel deserves the property it had after WWII at the very least. But not ALL of it should be Palestine…

That’s why they call it a “two-state solution.”

Oh so you are basically saying that taking land from others is OK as long as you do it the fair way?

Basically: jews were offered a hand, they took an arm, but wanted the entire body.

Israel is butthurt.

Thats a good analogy assuming Israel was never attacked by the Arab states.

edit - I just realized this thread was ninja’d by like 6 months and should be locked:

https://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?t=3073

or merged

woot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9O5vQep-nM&feature=sub

The world should just ignore that region until they’ve managed to get their shit together. Too many politicians interfere in the hopes that if they solve the crisis they’ll get the Nobel price.

The whole thing is a crapshoot. The Israelis want it because God told them to slaughter 60,000 people and take it in some shitty book written thousands of years ago, they got their asses kicked out, and then it was given back to them after WWII. The Palestinians want it because “IT’S MY HUNK OF SAND AND PIG SHIT! I WANNA GROW MORE FIG TREES WAH!”

I don’t know if it’s my American blood or what, but something about the whole conflict just makes me not care. If something involves a territory dispute, religion, and lots of hot, arid sand, I want no part.

I mean, seriously. The real catalyst behind this whole thing is religion. Jews and Muslims have a hard time being within fifty feet of each other in many countries.

I hate the fact that these days you can’t say anything bad about the jews without being called a nazi. They’re taking advantage of this whole “Oh we’re the victims here” excuse.

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