The way we currently go about our business is not sustainable, especially when it comes to agriculture. I’m not saying we’ll go extinct within 100 years, but massive problems will emerge one way or another. Stephen Hawking once said that despite all our technological advances, each human still holds the same instincts that helped us survive in the wild. These two things do not work well together.
Yes, it’s why there are so many fat people (and generally unhealthy people as a result of eating habits).
(fuck’s sake my spelling seems to deteriorate with the day. and I used to be so good at it 
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The food problem is very complex, there are some good 1 hour videos about it on Youtube. Primary problems like government subsidies to farmers, bad soil drained from its vital materials, too much livestock and the quality of all foods in supermarkets causing a shitstorm of cancers, heart diseases, stroke and so on.
Some people even go as far as to say that more than 90% of all food in the supermarketd is not healthy. Foods are sprayed with toxic materials, genetically modified, filled with conservatives, too much salts and sugars, too much junk like hydrogenated oils (trans fat) and high-fructose corn syrup, ‘fast meals’ and so on.
And I’m not just talking about junkfood, it’s almost everything from canned foods to bread, all candy and ESPECIALY softdrinks (Coca Cola for example).
The effects it has on health and the environment is dramatic.
Did you know that 100% of the people living beyond 85 grew up before the 1970s?
I guess it proves that people were healthier back then.
You are correct,90% of the food in the supermarket may as well be called poison. Poison for humans and for our environment. If you really want to eat in a healthy manner never set foot into the grocery aisles, stick to the produce and meat depts. Corn syrup has to be enemy number one in America (I’m not sure how much of it is in other nations yet) it is in almost everything we eat.
Humans are biologically wired to put on fat, it was a survival tool and it is now killing us due to lethargy and the amount of sugars and corn we eat. But we are also wired to other things that we have forgotten, check this guy out, he is part of a growing movement that is rediscovering what human fitness and diet really mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGF-ErsJiI
You had me at “growing movement”.
I’d say meat consumption is an even bigger problem than high-fructose corn syrup. Animals are bred in horrible conditions, fed genetically modified foods that they’re not supposed to eat. They pump them full with that crap and inject them with certain things (can’t remember exactly what it is) to make sure they don’t die. If you look at meat consumption in America and Japan the difference is HUGE. And guess what, things like cancer and heart disease are far less common in Japan then they are in America.
Animals bred under conditions like those in America will never give you high quality meat. It also contributes to pollution and disease (you’ll know why when you see one of the ‘factories’ for yourself).
I eat meat that is organically and ethically farm raised, or I hunt/fish it. If you are eating natural meat and veggies, and cutting out grains, sugars and other junk your heart will be fine. Most of my diet is meats and my cholesterol, blood pressure and heart are better than they ever have been.
EDIT: I have seen the factories, and will never eat that junk again. The least we can do for the animals we are eating is honor them with a good life.
Jean: Try not to generalize. Free range food is much higher quality and tastes much better. I only consume free range meat where possible.
This is an argument against factory farming, not meat consumption.
It can be seen that our eating habits ARE slowly turning around, with better quality food (and better conditions for the animals) starting to take the spotlight. It all just takes time though!
I had so many things to say about comments made 13 or 14 pages ago that aren’t relevant now :fffuuu:
I think the theory is based on our current habits and doesn’t quite take into account how flexible we are as a species, I’ve no doubt that should any problems arise in the future we’ll work them out somehow. We may wreck the planet for now, but who says we won’t be able to restore it in the future?
I disagree. The manner in which people consume meat (the amount they consume) is far out of proportion to what is healthy and viable for proper global meat production, regardless of how it is produced.
I’m not saying you’re one of those people, of course, and free range farms are definitely the way to go.
I saw a film about all this in the cinema last year, and it was really well-constructed and just generally well-done. Unfortunately I don’t remember what it was
In my view, meat should be a luxury and not a commodity. A luxury available to everyone though. Something you eat once a weak maybe. Or a lot less than what most people eat every day now. 150g a day is all you should need.
Edit: this is the one. Focuses on US food production.
I eat (free range) meat because I enjoy it, to be honest. It might not be (completely) healthy and it might be a luxury, but, dammit, I enjoy it. And the Homo sapiens species is omnivorous.
I think we could accommodate the needs of our population and still not abuse animals in harsh living conditions of factory farming.
That was exactly my point. Today’s meat consumption (generally speaking) far exceeds the needs of our population (in the western world, at least).
The human body evolved to eat meat more than once a week(regardless of what well produced films say). This can be done in a responsible way.
“Or a lot less than what most people eat every day now. 150g a day is all you should need.”
i also didnt say that film said that
also i wasnt talking about what the human body can take, i was talking about what should be for a responsible global meat economy
I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that it would be totally possible for us to shift away from factory farming and towards many more responsible small farms, this would also benefit the US economy that is now seeing the result of a service employment surplus.
It is also not just meat factory farming that is ruining the environment, but mono culture agriculture farming(which is fucking horrible). So even if everyone stopped eating meat and became a vegetarian we would still be fucked unless we get away from factory farming in totality instead of just focusing on meat.
Yes, all that stuff about agriculture farming is mentioned in Food Inc.
But I disagree that it’s impossible. Improbable, yes. Eating habits need to change.
If every family moves out of the city and builds a house in the woods with a farm and some animals, the world would sustain a lot more damage.
Way to take things out of context. No one proposed that everyone move out of cities and start farming. I suggested that if we had much more support for real farms more of them could afford to operate. But, many more people in the city took up hunting we would also have a ecological benefit and much healthier meat.
Just wait until the artificial food rolls in, only about 300 years in the future people will eat synthetic food all their life and never taste real meat.