In opposing force I forget the mission but you can see Gordon jumping into the portal.
In blue shift you see Gordon being dragged by to marines though a small bunker window. (again not sure of the name of the chapter)
The g-man says to Sheperd he well be preserved for another time.
As for the helmet issue, in op4 you see him with his helmet while he is jumping into the portal, but you don’t see it while he is being dragged by the marines in blue shift.
Not sure if the game play between the games ties anything together or proves anything but thats just what you can see.
You seem to be a little confused as what canon is exactly. Just because Op4 and BS included mentions of events from Half Life 1 don’t make them canon, it just means they’re REFERENCING material that is canon. Events from BS and Op4 only become canon when they are specifically referred to by an official Valve produced game or source, and even if individual events are qualified as canon that way, that canonization does not automatically extend to the entire game as well.
Well, I can solve the point of this thread by saying that the backstory may not be canon, but the fans invent the canon in a star-trekkian or star-warsian kind of way.
“We Are Not Alone” & he was without a helmet. If you turn around in Half-life, you don’t see shepard.
That’s a reference, not a any proof of canon. Also note his lack of a helmet. Also, you don’t see barney, even if you noclip.
He says “detained.” Which means that he may or may not come back. Also no guarantee of canon in the slightest.
Actually, he’s without it both times.
I can see that you’re wrong or irrelevant on multiple accounts. The only real things that tie the games together are the nuke & the name “Barney Calhoun.” & everything else proves that he doesn’t wear a helmet.
I don’t understand why is the helmet issue different? Why is Half Life different from other games? Why is suddenly every aspect of the game put on logic test? Those are simply FPS rules that are valid in many other FPS games - how many games you have where you get shot all over the body, including head, without having a helmet? Also in how many games, INCLUDING HALF LIFE you get instant heal? Why aren’t you crippled when your wounded, how are you able to take tons of bullets and heal all the time? If Nip/Tuck thought us anything, it’s that human body cant be endlessly repaired… You can’t discuss the helmet issue relying on logic, while excluding other aspects of the game out of it. Some aspects are simply relying on FPS VIDEO GAME rules, while others are comparable to common sense logic, such as the story, characters…
I agree that everything he does requires a helmet, everything you mentioned is true. But in a video game you can make some compromises, such as that he doesn’t wear a helmet, yet he acts like he is. Also if hud is projected on the helmet glass, I would presume that the glass borders would be visible… ? Don’t tell me that the glass is too wide, or something like that…
Now, we wait for a kiss from Alyx, that would resolve all dilemma… B)
And here a question for a common sense logic - in HL1, Gordon can stay endlessly on Xen without draining Oxygen, yet in HL2 he drains O2 under water very quckly… Why? Some downgrade in technology between Mark IV and V?
Actually there’s a living scientist hidden in xen who’s not wearing a HEV at all, so there’s clearly a breathable atmosphere and it’s not a function of the suit.
Yes, you CAN discuss the helmet issue relying on logic because a simple and logical reason EXISTS. You don’t question if the blue stuff that is above you is the sky, there aren’t arguments proposing the idea that it’s water that just happens to be breathable and look like air, or if it’s actually a giant TrumanShow-style cage that surrounds the area. The simple and logical reason for why the stuff above you looks and acts like air is because IT IS AIR.
The reason why that is different from being able to take endless damage from bullets, or why Freeman can carry endless amounts of ammo and weapons without being burdened down or encumbered is because no simple and logical reason really exists for those cases. It’s only AFTER no simple and logical reason exists that you start putting features of a game into the “Video Game Logic” category.
Okay, I wont tell you, I’ll just link to the image that shows that what you just mentioned could easily be the case.
See? That visor area wraps around the head almost to the ears, so it could easily be to or past the edges of what would be visible on the in-game screen. That’s not even counting the fact that human eyesight tends to sorta wash out extraneous details that aren’t part of what you’re focusing your attention on. Neither does it consider that Gordon Freeman wears glasses, which can’t correct any deficiencies in your/his peripheral vision, hence Gordon likely is used to looking through his glasses and not focusing on what is at the edge of his vision.
That wouldn’t really resolve anything, it’s not unusual for a girl to kiss the helmet of the victorious champion. You see it all the way back from knights in full plate armor to motocross rallies.
Xen may have a toxic, but breathable atmosphere. I don’t recall anyone actually saying what the conditions were like there. In which case the helmet of the HEV suit likely has a built in gas mask, but a gas mask does nothing for breathing underwater.
It also might be the result of having the Long jump unit, which is also missing from the Mark 5 HEV suit.
There also very well might be a downgrade of technology in the Mark 5, seeing as how the Mark 4 was developed in a fully funded research facility, whereas the Mark 5 was likely rebuilt from the Mark 4 with whatever technology could be scrounged up while hiding from the dominion of the Combine Overwatch.
So there you go, not just one, but THREE possible explanations that are all pretty simple and logical.
If I went with my breathable, but toxic atmosphere idea, then it’s possible that he’s only alive for a short time and will eventually die from the toxins.
But it doesn’t change the fact that the helmet it’s self doesn’t exist. That’s where the FPS logic applies the same way it does to everything else. All humans can take multiple bullets to the head because otherwise it would be too hard.
Of course it doesn’t change the fact, because it’s not a correct fact. You never see gordon freeman (yourself) in any of the official valve games, you never see the HEV suit from behind in any of the official valve games, and those times you see the HEV suit in the official valve games ON someone else, it has a helmet, ergo, the helmet itself DOES EXIST. What exactly are you pointing to as being evidence of the helmet not existing being a fact?
Yoy guys should make a poll: helmet vs no helmet. Could cause some massive flame-wars though… So you should totally go for it.
On topic: I like the HL universe as it it: mysterious and contraversive. I don’t wan’t to understand everything about it, cause obviously that would ruin the whole mysteriuosness thing and all.
As to the helmet debate, I go for no helmet.
That has no effect on if something is true or not. That would just go to show popular opinion, which in the vast majority of cases is a stupid opinion.
I think you need to look up the definition of the word “fact.”
Helmets for the suit do exist, but that doesn’t mean that freeman wears one.
Gordon is always depicted without a helmet in concept art.
The suit is never shown with a helmet in HL1 or 2.
You can take damage from toxic gas, making the helmet useless if there was one.
There is a scientist in xen with out a helmet, so they’re not needed in xen.
The Gearbox expansions never depict him with a helmet. (canon or otherwise)
Half-Life Deathmatch depicts him without a helmet.
Marc Laidlaw himself has said there is no helmet.
It’s just a fucking videogame, there doesn’t need to be one.
Ok the end result is that he has no helmet you can see he doesn’t have one in the model of HL1 and in my post just down in my signature is a link where the actual model of Gordon In HL2 is, and by the shape of the head you can see no helmet … it is a game for crying out loud nothing has to be completely logic … we might say that Gordons helmet was lost and that they made him special glasses that display the HUD as if he was wearing the helmet …
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