Considering I’m only a humble biped, up and down aren’t usually a direct option. I don’t have it inverted, actually 
I used to, but I just get used to it the other way.
I only invert my mouse when emulating a joystick, like in a BF2 aircraft.
The little lamps that turn off when you get near are the ones you can kill, right?
(I’m ignoring the inverted mouse heresy )
No, the ones you can kill are the purple ones hanging from the ceiling in one of the early Xen maps. The ones that shoot lightning at you.
Oh, right. Those…
Those are the ones that I meant, too.
You do invert your mouse? That’s the heresy here! :fffuuu:
Now now, skeeter… he ain’t hurtin’ anybody.
Lamsey is the only person who I’ve ever heard of that actually inverts his mouse. But at least that’s better then preferring to use a gamepad. :FFFUUU:
Yeah? Well we don’t take kindly to people who don’t take kindly to people…
:brow:
You move your head forward, you look down. Move your head backward, you look up. Same for the mouse. Also, planes have worked this way since long before computer games - you ‘pull up’, you don’t push up. Saves a lot of confusion if, like me, you are a FreeSpace fan or whatever.
The only possible reason I can think of for non-inverted mouse is if you’re thinking about moving the crosshair around on screen, rather than the character’s head. I prefer my way of thinking.
edit: oops, strayed a bit off-topic there. Sowweee :fffuuu:
That’s exactly how I see it. Having the mouse inverted just feels so much more natural.
P.S. Dias, now you know of TWO people, cool huh?
I prefer your way of thinking too. For a thumb-stick, except it’s not so much a “head” as it is the back end of a gun on a fulcrum.
As for using a mouse, it’s like the first. I can click around Icons on my desktop faster then I think about what they are. Going into a game, and needing to go opposite direction then I’m used to feels, well, ass-backwards.
It’s like TWICE the :facepalm: in one!
I don’t think of moving the mouse as moving the character’s head, more-so as moving the hand which is holding the weapon. So if I move the mouse up, the hand and weapon which is being held should also go up.
I don’t see why you people need to think about it that much.
So answer me truthfully - when you’re underwater in the game and wanting to surface, do you actually use assigned keys for swimming upwards , or do you just look up and press forwards?
Inverted mouse controls are the devil’s work. A mouse is not a joystick. Gordon Freeman is not an aeroplane. The crosshair represents the direction you are looking in, you move the mouse upwards to move the direction you are looking in upwards, just the same as when you want to look left or right you move the crosshair in that direction with your mouse.
If the forwards and backwards motion of the mouse were tilting your head forwards and backwards, then side to side mouse motion should just loll your head from side to side, twisting your view laterally.
But at that point I’m moving on both the horizontal and vertical planes, not one or t’other, so moving in the direction you’re looking in that situation is the best.
On a ladder, you’re still on one plane, so in that case, using the keys is best. Even if it didn’t make sense, it’d still be a better way of doing it, since you can look wherever the hell you like, free as the wind, no matter if you’re going up or down.
You said it. When on a ladder, you’re still moving on a plane (since you can still go sideways) just the same as on the ground, just ninety degrees rotated. So why shouldn’t the movement method be the same?
Ah, I forgot you could move from side to side. That was annoying too. You kind of have a point. Still, it’s not really 90 degrees rotated since you aren’t actually facing upwards. And now we just get to semantics, so I’ll just refer you back to this:
HL2 Ladders are somewhat realistic. You’re weapon is put in Gordon’s 3rd hand, while his other two go invisible to help him climb. Then, you can turn his head 360 degrees and shoot in any direction, because of his third arm and all… :freeman:
What if while he’s climbing he’s using both his hands and if you look away he supports himself with one and uses the other to shoot…but that doesn’t explain how he uses 2-handed weapons while climbing a ladder…