FUCKING PROMETHEUS

George had people breathing down his neck when making the original Star Wars movies and when he had free reign he made the prequels. I think that says that Lucas was a mediocre director to begin with.

Don’t know much about Ridley Scott though.

Not really the best parallel given the events in between Alien – Prometheus and A New Hope – Phantom Menace are pretty different. I mean Lucas did some producing work but didn’t “exercise” if you know what I mean. Ridley never stopped. Sure, his movies have been hit and miss since Bladerunner, but his style is still there.

Plus the reason why the two films were successful is a pretty big factor. Star Wars was a damn cool idea. Swashbuckling in space. Fucking awesome. Hard to fuck it up. In fact, the main reason why the prequels sucked is because that old Errol Flynn (hurr durr robinhood full circle) feeling was gone. Alien was more generic concept wise, but it’s execution was what won it the praise. The lighting, the composition, the pacing, the acting, the overall art design, and all that was top-fuckin-notch. Still is.

Lucas can only have an idea that good once. Maybe twice, but he’s retiring so nope. Ridley will always be able to pick a shot and arrange lighting and direct actors the badass way he does. Let’s just hope the script is in order.

Is this directed at me? Because I wasn’t trying to make a big deal out of anything. Just giving you some free advice that you apparently don’t care about, so whatever, your loss.

It’s not that I disagree with anything that you are saying here. I’m just iffy on whether this will be a good movie or not. I probably won’t be seeing it in theaters (I haven’t seen any of the Alien, Predator or crossover movies in theaters, so no big deal to me).

This has nothing to do with the shit that has been produced post Aliens. This is the original creator going back to his masterpiece and giving us the backstory to it.

SPACE JOCKEYS

Hence the Phantom Menace analogy. That was also the original creator going back to his masterpiece and giving us the backstory to it. Even though everyone assumed it would be an instant classic, it ended up being really bad because the environment that created the first trilogy just wasn’t there anymore. George probably thought it was his genius alone that created Star Wars, when it was really the collaborative effort of his cast and crew and the hard circumstances that they faced when filming that really made those films what they were. So it’s possible Prometheus will be the same way. Of course, this is Scott, so though he has hits and misses, even his misses aren’t too bad. If it isn’t completely awesome, it’ll at least be ok I think.

He actually was only involved in the original Alien, though I’m not sure if that’s what you were trying to say or not.

I know that but he is one of the main driving forces behind the franchise.

Big fucking update.

cool promo

Although I don’t like that this promo is set in 2023. Feels too close.
I prefer my scifi to be far into the future so that I will never catch up with it and say, “Hey, it’s 2012, were are the fucking flying cars?”

Well the first Alien film was set in 2122 which is far away enough for me to be happy. I wonder when Prometheus is actually set, I suspect some time at the end of the 2000s. Maybe 2060 or 70.

I prefer science fiction that is either set so far into the future that no one will even remember there was a movie made that contradicts reality, or don’t give a specific time frame to contradict in the first place.

Scifi writters don’t like making histories close to our time for the single reason they would need to do too much research about how things would be made / done.

A far away futur with no or little links to earth makes those things easier.

I Love when they have the balls to do so, there are few but mainly masterpieces such as
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy

It really doesn’t matter too much when a piece of fiction takes place.

Because it’s fiction.

That’s why I love Star Wars IV, V, and XI. Because they aren’t attached to anything in the real. They are pure fiction.

But once you assign a date to a franchise, I sure as shit had better believe that the technology and locations involved are within the realm of possibility. Either that or your story/movie had better be off the charts entertaining (star trek 2, demolition man).

Except for aunt Beru wearing a jean jacket and using tupperware.

That always bothered me.

No, they do it to sever tethers to reality. Time frames in sci fi are more of a tool to tell the audience how much fantasy they should expect. It has nothing to do with actual time.

Researching the technology of the future isn’t possible. The future does not exist yet. The past century has been proof that everything predicted in ancient science fiction just didn’t happen at all like the way it was depicted to.

Nobody in 1979 was expecting the 2010s to be a world where everyone spends most of their time wiping the surface of small black rectangles. They thought we’d have cyborgs, and cRT screens embedded in the walls

I predicted it.

Sure they do. All they have to do is make their story take place in an alternate timeline and BAM! Instant carte blanche to write in whatever technology they want for the purpose of their story. Take Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It’s only a decade or two from present day, but by stating that, in the past (from our perspective as well as from the game’s), there was a lot of progress in augmentation due to the work of a few key figures, then no one could say it was implausible, because they just made it plausible. Course, it’s not like it was all that implausible to begin with.

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