Don't be a fanboy.

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If I did that my life would have no meaning anymore. jk :stuck_out_tongue:

But seriously, a qoute I really love “If one person says white and another says black it doesn’t make grey the truth.” People who like to take the middle ground in an argument aren’t always the mature and correct ones. Extremists can be right.

And no, macs are pretty far from capable legitimate gaming platforms seeing as they only support like 2% of big games recently released.

And failure rates are vastly important when buying a console; who wants to buy a console that has a 50/50 chance of breaking on them after a year of careful use? And available accessories are very important and graphics are mildly important. For example, ps3 has an accessory that is the bizarre love-child of a mouse and controller, which every reviewer has said increases their skill.

Now, as to whether or not X game is good, that is much more a matter of opinion than the others.

Extremists can be right but they’re wrong in the way they demonstrate their opinion.

There’s nothing wrong in having a stronger opinion of something over another. The problem is when you become emotionally invested in something, as HPN said. If you take your tastes too seriously, you become an annoying, negative and narrow minded person who isn’t able to see the benefits of branching their tastes over to other pastures.

Just because a small percentage of games are released for the Mac, it makes it less of a capable platform? Have you forgotten that Macs are basically running PC hardware now? I guess you’re talking about software support, but that has also been improved recently. Steam on Mac will revitalize Mac gaming.

Now, I’m not going to argue about keyboard and mouse being better than a gamepad for fps, because it’s true, but to be honest, while it may need a little getting used to, you can get very good at playing fps games with a gamepad too.

If failure rates really shaped the commercial success of a console, then the 360 would have been dead and buried for years, wouldn’t it? I could’ve bought an Xbox as easily as I’ve bought a PS3. The only reason I chose the latter is because I think the PS3 has a stronger library of games. Not implying there’s no good games for the 360 it’s just that the PS3 exclusives appeal more to my tastes.

I agree with everything except them mac part. I tried using one of those before. I nearly stabbed myself.

I agree with everything except the MW2 part. The gameplay allows anyone to get 100s of kills per second, and makes kids think they’re the god of all FPSs, then they go play other games and ruin the online experience with their bitching about how much they die. I hate the general crowd of fad hoppers who play it and I hate the gameplay itself. I’m not a fanboy, I’ve just been affected negatively by this fucking abomination of a game. :smiley:

Well, I actually prefer the 360 to the ps3 as it has many pros that I feel outweigh the cons, but lets not get into that.

If quality always did determine popularity Valve would be the biggest game company, apple would be bankrupt, and people would still be gaming on pcs.

And I agree with you, extremism can be annoying, that’s why I save all my fanboyism for this forum; I don’t want to annoy people I know IRL.

Despite respecting maxeys opinion, i just cant get on with it.

What do you mean?

For god’s sakes shut the fuck up with your annoying TF2 memes, it’s just a replacement for counter strike, I remember 10 years ago people would be making funny videos about CS all day long but they were always flamed for loving such a shitty game well that’s exactly what’s happening to TF2 fanboys, if you like the game, it’s great but don’t go and make 200 youtube videos with tf2 characters in them.

Maxey is a cool guy, he creates worthwhile threads and doesn’t afraid of anything.

I’m afraid of grasshoppers. True story.

The feel of mac’s os

Say Wut Brah?

You contradict yourself. By the logic in your second post it is not a viable platform because it doesn’t have as much software support. Just because something has the potential to do something well does not mean it does. If you care more about software then hardware support than macs are an inferior gaming platform. If you care about hardware over software them macs are an inferior gaming platform, due to a greater price for equivalent hardware. This is not including other factors like which OS you prefer, this is a sheerly a comparison based on them as a gaming platform.

I said, console wars, not operating system wars.

Besides, this is more for the PC fanboys who don’t want to handle the fact that Macs are also a viable gaming platform.

Console wars or gaming platform wars they are basically the same thing except console excludes computers as a platform. the fact that you differentiate them is just a means of protecting your argument from its obvious flaw.

Macs are NOT a viable GAMING PLATFORM. The are a viable piece of equipment if your primary purpose is not gaming.

See? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. You’re being narrow minded. I’m not saying Mac is a successful gaming platform nor that you should choose it over other gaming systems, I’m just saying that if you want to play games on Mac, you can. It’s another legitimate system to play games on, regardless of what you think of its merits as a gaming system.

I am not saying that it cannot be used to play games. It can play tf2 as well as almost any PC that can, it can play civilization well. If you like the OS and you already have a console or something else to do heavy gaming on go for it.

But as a piece of equipment you buy for the purpose of playing games (Gaming Platform) it is a not a viable choice. Once its price becomes competitive with PCs or consoles or it expands its software library it will be a viable gaming platform. If you want a computer first and a gaming platform second go for it. If you want a gaming platform and the computer elements don’t matter a ton to you go for a PC. Its the same argument as an iPhone as a gaming platform, if you buy it FOR the games your retarded. If you buy it because you want a phone/computer that also happens to play some games, you are a smart consumer.

Edit: Anyways I think I realized where you’re confused about what I am saying.

The primary difference in what we are talking about is our definition of “viable gaming platform”. I consider a gaming platform something you get with the intention of playing games as the primary interest. IE PS3 plays games but also runs Blu-Ray well it is a gaming platform more than a Blu-Ray player because most people get it for the games. I don’t consider Macs a gaming platform because most people don’t get them for the games.

I don’t consider it viable because it isn’t competitive. In both hardware and software. In order for it to be viable as a gaming platform its benifits would have to out weight the downsides. But right now it has a higher price point and less games. If it had more games I could say well I am getting more bang for buck, its a viable choice or lower price I am still getting bang for buck.

I’m not looking at it as a piece of equipment with utility I am looking at as a piece of equipment for entertainment in the form of video games. It is not a viable gaming platform by this definition and that is a fact.

I understand what you’re saying but that’s not really the point here. One can easily spend as much or more than a Mac on a monster of a gaming PC. How much money are you willing to spend to get your gaming on is irrelevant here. It’s a valid point, sure, but not for this thread.

The core of this discussion is that whatever you choose to play games on and which games you play on it, you shouldn’t be judged for that nor should you become so emotionally invested in it that you perceive people choosing other system and games as being deeply wrong decisions and that they should be berated for that. Or that those other systems or games have no good merits of their own and only what you like are the right things.

The OP made think that the point of this thread was more of, don’t have an opinion or make consumer decisions you’re a fanboy.

There is a reason why there are Halo fanboys who praise it like no tomorrow and anti-fanboys(?) who hate it. There are valid arguments. Taking the middle ground is just being an indecisive bitch, as a consumer your goal is to use reason to make choices. Obviously your going to get invested in your decision you invested money into it already. Someone saying you made the wrong decision is something no one ever takes well.

Wasn’t one of the first multiplayer online games on a mac? ( Bungie’s Minotaur: The Labyrinths of Crete, 1992?)

bah.

Like I said, I chose a PS3 over a X360 because I felt the PS3 had a stronger library of exclusive games.

However, I’m not going to go all “ps3 rulz, fuck teh suxbox lol” because of it.

That’s the whole point of this thread, pointing out how stupid it is to be a fanboy of a gaming system just because you prefer it over the other gaming systems.

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