I give to charity if I think it is deserving, if someone actively asks for a donation I will refuse, it rather defeats the purpopse of making a moral decision. This is why I’m not a big fan of rememberance day it’s getting to the point where people don’t give because they want to but because they know someone will yell at them if they don’t wear a poppy.
I’ve never been yelled at for not wearing a poppy.
If anything, Hitler wanted the best for his people. Sure, that involved selected slaughtering of innocent jews, gipsies, homosexuals etc, but what he did was, in his eyes, the best thing for his people.
Also, the reasons the Russians and Americans (and probably others) joined WW2 for, were probably more selfish than anything Hitler had done. They even turned the war into a contest to capture Berlin first. But hey, its’ not like those events started another war, now did they.
Your self-righteous preachings make me giddy, though, so good job for that! You made me happy! Feel smug now.
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Being a 1st degree knight in the Knight of Columbus, I believe that charity is an act of humility, thinking of others before yourself. I believe that charity has to be from the heart, an action, not just giving money but volunteering in the community like helping people at soup kitchens, boosting their morale for them to go back to school and get a decent job; Helping families with funerals, making sure kids have community activities, building shelters for the poor… Basically the old saying “love your neighbor as yourself.” Cf. Mark 12:28-31; 1st Corinthians 13:13
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Absolutely, for a society to succeed people who are down in the dumps need people who love them with unconditional love to boost their morale even if it’s a stranger. Charity is supposed to be interpersonal.
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Supposed to isn’t really the word, charity is a very personal aspect of someone’s relationship with other people. If we want to be remembered as good people, we have to be charitable towards other people in society, directly AND indirectly. Einstein was charitable through his work as a scientific researcher, Nikola tesla was charitable by discovering Alternative Current, Radio communication, making the first electric cars, suggesting to make a world network made of accessible electrically based encyclopedias (what we know now as the internet). Basically we can be charitable by making a difference in the world at work and at play. It’s not so much of a country’s responsibility or an other but everyone in the world. A good example of charity is these software developpers here on this site making Black Mesa Source. They do it not only for themselves but because they love the fans of the game and want people from generation Y and Z to see the game in a new light.
P.S. so as you can see charity is necessary, it might be difficult sometimes to contribute to a cause physically and financially but as they say “nothing worth doing is easy.”
Oh, I love my neighbor just fine. I just don’t love the brother of the friend of the mother of said neighbor. Mainly because I don’t know him, and thus I don’t care about him.
And really, all the examples you’ve given in your third answer can’t be considered charity. With charity I mean the generous givings to aid the poor, the ill, the helpless. You know, helping those “in need”. I don’t consider the invention of a radio or a nuke (yes, that sure helped the world, now didn’t it) not to be part of charity. Those are results from ordinary scientists or inventors that create things and hope to get famous with their creations. Sure, those things may have improved our lives, but I don’t consider those as acts of charity. What use would radio communication be if Tesla had kept it to himself? How does radio communication make the lives of our poor African brethren so much better now?
Not anymore than folks that live in a trailer park in tornado ally.
Not more than innocent children dieing in Africa.
But I’m not donating money just to perpetuate repeated disaster.
If I were to donate something it would be to prevent the disaster from happening again. Like sending money to low cost disaster proof building design. Not donate money so some workers and help then dig out and re-build just enough to get crushed again later.
It’s idealist, and will likely fail. But preventing disaster will save more lives than just saving current victims.
I didn’t mean to start another arguement… and i cant belive you called the men who laid down their lives for your freedom, selfish, shocking
I said that the intentions of the nations (its leaders, government) were selfish. Not those that were puppets for said nations.
Besides, the German soldiers (particularly the Wehrmacht) also fought under Hitler, would you call all of them selfish as well? They died for their country, for what their leaders thought to be a good cause. Shocking!
First off i don’t trust charity organizations. Its in their best interest (the guys who run the organization and profit from it) to not cure the disease or fix the conflict. Look at the Red cross for instance, what was once a great organization has been tainted by fraud and embezzlement within the organization.
i think that if you actually do care, actually do want to make a difference, do it personally. For instance don’t give a dollar to Charity A where only one cent is used in order to feed Africa, find a hungry person within your community and help them personally. It’s easy to swipe a credit card or drop a dollar in a box, the people who actually care will be willing to go the extra mile, otherwise it’s all just for the selfish satisfaction of feeling good, not actually changing anything.
For instance, i bet you’ve never heard of Ionized Water before,the American Cancer Society has never mentioned it, so why should you?
i have someone very close to me dying of cancer right now, its painful for me to watch, and everyday i question why we don’t have a cure, these organizations have been “researching” for over 60 years and have little to no advances in treatment or a cure.
Well ‘genius’ out of the major countries to take part in WW2 only 3 declared war on Germany outright. The US declared neutrality and the Soviets signed a non-aggression pact with Germany. In fact, after the signing of the pact, the Soviets actually helped Germany take Poland and Finland.
Neither the US nor the Soviets actually joined the war until both were directly attacked and provoked. And that my friend is not a selfless act, on the contrary, it is the exact opposite. It is an act of self preservation.
Once again you miss the mark.
And you don’t need to quote religious text to me, at no time did I ever say or elude that I was not a charitable person. Make no assumptions you can’t prove.
Because it’s not profitable enough to have a cure just yet. Even if they find something right now, it’ll still be another 5 years minimum before it’ll go on the market.
No amount of donations will make that go faster.
A cure for cancer would be profitable for the pharmaceutical companies only if they would sell patients vitamin shots, but they don’t want to show the cure because it would actually be more profitable for Natural Grocery stores than anyone else.
Okay, you’re either a fucking moron or a massive troll.
I’ve studied history and looked at the Third Reich in detail and what you’re saying is… It’s so stupid, it’s beyond words. For a start, he was a fucking dictator. That should give you a clue. Y’know, the fact that he strived to get as much power as possible. Then there’s the fact that the Nazi party used massive groups of “their” people for scapegoats to direct aggression away from the Nazis. Then the kicker: he basically had nothing to do with what the Nazi government did: most of the policies and actions of the party were made by subordinates interpreting his off-hand gibberish or parts of Mein Kampf.
Also, Rabbiddog, well done, you’ve managed to avoid answering the post yet again.
Cup o joe, don’t start that Gerson shit again. I replied to you in the other topic about this and you still haven’t answered.
How about you actually read the testimonies and the evidence instead of putting on blinders, this book is in libraries to borrow and read.
That still doesn’t change the fact that he wanted, in his eyes, the best for the German nation. I’m not defending his actions throughout his short-lived career, I’m merely stating the fact that, despite being the evil being that he was, he wanted the best for his country. Sure, it involved getting a fuckton of power and invading other countries and making stupid decisions, but it started with him saving his country. Prior to the war, Germany thriving under Hitler’s leader/dictatorship.
But anyway, let’s move back to charity and how I think it’s pointless and how you think that you’re the best human being in the world. Go.
Testimony != Evidence
Gerson was a quack. Peer-review showed this. The National Cancer Institute said this of Gerson:
I know of people who have, I’ve even seen people steal them (how screwed up is that?). Then again there are alot of gits where I live.
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What on earth do you know about Hitler? Show me any evidence for him thinking it was best for his country. Look at how he played almost no part in the government apart from the occasional rally, preferring to stay in his mountain retreat. He obviously cared a bunch.
Also, when did I say I thought I was the best human in the world? Just because I’m not lacking in basic compassion doesn’t make me saint.
How about malaria tablet/tents? There are plenty of charities set up for raising money to send those. Considering malaria’s been wiped out in a few places, it’s obviously done something. But, oh wait, it doesn’t directly effect you, so I imagine that now includes it in the scope of not having a point since it proves you wrong yet again.
Yeah, yeah, call me ignorant and link me to books you’ve not even read, but please, do it in the proper thread.
Basically, you’re all looking at specific cases of charity and then using them as your idea for charity. Considering how many thousands of charities there are out there, supporting a vast multitude of causes, this is ridiculous.
You are going to lose your minds. Everything you do changes the world. Maybe The world will be doomed just because you peed wrong