Black Mesa 2009 Update

[Lord_Grievous]

And it’ll only leave Inbound :meh:

[chrisp]

It does make sense if you think of improving performance to play on lower-spec computers…

[Lord_Grievous]

Yes, I’m sure that’s also a factor but it just seems an odd turn of phrase when they could’ve easily said optimise or something.

You’re probably right, but it would be nice wouldn’t it

[chrisp]

It would be awesome :awesome:! You are right - everything the devs say is very cryptic and nothing they say can or should be taken at face value…!

[Gloric]

@cman2k

Hello Black Mesa fans!

We come to you once again with an update. It’s now the end of 2009, and we know many of you have literally counted the days down until this fateful month. We are floored by the level of support you have given us and are very excited we’re so close to reaching our goal.

Unfortunately, to our great disappointment, Black Mesa will not make a 2009 release.

Cynics may now rejoice, bets may be collected, and I think a mod team member has to eat his shoe, but we hope our loyal fans will forgive us and realize that the delay will translate into a better final product that’s (hopefully) more easily available to everyone.

Once again we apologize for what has to be very disappointing news. We placed a 2009 deadline on ourselves to motivate us and bring this 6 year project to a close. And while we didn’t quite make it, we have come very close, and you can expect a complete, polished game to hit your hard drives in the near future. We’ll be sure and update if anything changes. Until then, hang tight, it’s coming!

[bionicman]

Could someone from the team maybe confirm or deny to me if the mod has actually been delayed in order to do some kind of release with valve when episode 3 comes out? that way i know not to expect it any time soon within the next coming months if that is the case.

[Garcian_Smith]

No, Black Mesa is going to be released independently of Episode Three.

Where do these ideas come from?

[Brother_Shrike]

about 7.

[mattemuse]

@chrisp

Was it not supposed to be so they could work on performance issues?
That’s certainly the impression I got from this post, and some of Ram’s posts (for example).

The context of the post you’re linking to has nothing to do with the delay. Ram’s just talking about optimizing performance in general. He says expect it to need similar or better hardware than Ep 2. So “make more easily available” indeed does not make any sense in the context of performance enhancements.

[chrisp]

@mattemuse

The context of the post you’re linking to has nothing to do with the delay. Ram’s just talking about optimizing performance in general. He says expect it to need similar or better hardware than Ep 2. So “make more easily available” indeed does not make any sense in the context of performance enhancements.

I never said it was specifically to do with the delay - but seen as comments like this where made after the delay, I’m suggesting that performance may be an issue which could be attributed to the delay, and in that context cman2k’s words could be applied - “and expecting the performance to be” is not the same as “it performs this way now” - it’s all speculation like the comment I was replying to and in fact anything else on these forums!

[Dillxn]

My estimation is sometime in June or later.

[mattemuse]

@chrisp

t’s all speculation like the comment I was replying to and in fact anything else on these forums!

The speculation in the post you were replying to makes more sense than the speculation in your post. That’s all I’m saying

[Lord_Grievous]

@Dillxn

My estimation is sometime in June or later.

I REALLY hope you’re wrong. I’m kinda hoping for a march/april release. Surely they didn’t miss the 2009 deadline by that much.

[bionicman]

@Garcian Smith

No, Black Mesa is going to be released independently of Episode Three.

Where do these ideas come from?

The Orange box for one.

Do you think that valve or the black mesa team havent thought that Black Mesa might be a good addition to valves new compilation? Episode 3, portal 2 and Black Mesa.

Also Opposing force wasn’t created by Valve, Counter Strike wasn’t originally created by valve and portal wasn’t valves original idea to begin with.

[chrisp]

@mattemuse

The speculation in the post you were replying to makes more sense than the speculation in your post. That’s all I’m saying

I see what your saying, and the dev’s do choose their words carefully so there is a good chance Grievous is on to something.

–
I also hope your wrong Dillxn! But with some of the things the devs keep talking about it does make you wonder just how much is left to do :[

–
RE: bionicman, I hope your wrong, considering we have not even had a single screenshot from Episode 3, I can’t see it coming anytime soon…

[The_Assassin47]

He is wrong. I will eat a book if Black Mesa is first released packaged with Episode 3.

@Keresh

“Final model”, but it doesn’t matter since it was added by The Assassin47 and last time I checked, he was not on the dev team.

@Raminator

Okay, it doesn’t look like any of you understand what’s going on with our characters, and everyone’s speculating about things that don’t exist or make sense. I think the source of the confusion is that Ivan’s renders on his private website look a lot better than the images on our website. He’s using higher resolution textures than we can (reasonably) use in-game, and a nice static renderer. That isn’t how they look in-game. This is how they look in-game:[INDENT][/INDENT]I’m sure you will agree that they all look fine, and that there’s no real discrepancy in their level of quality or detail. And even if you disagree, we’ve gone through so many iterations that [color=Red]we’re sticking with these ones no matter what. :3

Owned.

[Brother_Shrike]

@bionicman

Also Opposing force wasn’t created by Valve, Counter Strike wasn’t originally created by valve and portal wasn’t valves original idea to begin with.

Portal was Valve’s idea, the concept of using portals in a puzzle game was not. Have you played Narbacular Drop?

Also, hiring a mod’s dev team and developing the mod in-house as an official game != using a mod made by an outside dev team in your game compilation.

[Deathmonkey7]

@bionicman

The Orange box for one.

Do you think that valve or the black mesa team havent thought that Black Mesa might be a good addition to valves new compilation? Episode 3, portal 2 and Black Mesa.

Also Opposing force wasn’t created by Valve, Counter Strike wasn’t originally created by valve and portal wasn’t valves original idea to begin with.

Again, this:

@Garcian Smith

Where do these ideas come from?

[bionicman]

I don’t understand how it is such a crazy idea.

[bulbman]

@bionicman

I don’t understand how it is such a crazy idea.

Black Mesa IS A MOD!
I know counter-strike and team fortress were mods too, but they stayed mods for a while before they were released by Valve. IF Valve, by whatever means, releases Black Mesa as anything, purchased or otherwise, it will most likely be available as a free mod first, and therefore, will be released first. Thank you, that is all. [Receeds back into cave]