Si, i am, but i prefer teenager. I was referring to the littler ones, being the oldest child and only boy in a family of 4 children.
Shit like that makes you learn to mature. :freeman:
or to become an angsty fag.
Hey guys, hows everyone doing in this thread?
Kids can take you up and down the scale of happiness. To the mother that warned her kid she would walk out… I commend her for simply doing what she said she was going to do. (Of which is what I think the number one problem with parenting.) I dont know that I would say / do the walk out on them, but I HAVE made use of the bathroom (everyplace public has a bathroom to make use of) to issue a couple swats on the behind for inappropriate behavior. It is kinda funny cuz this is what the conversation sounds like.
Isaac: I dont wanna sit in the cart! I wanna stay out! no no NOOOO!
Me: Isaac, if you do not stop this foolish behavior I will take you to the bathroom!
Isaac: NO NO! I dont wanna go to the BATHROOM! NOOO! ok I will sit in the cart!
Random person witnessing: (What is so wrong with going to the bathroom?)
inb4 bathroom rape
Cave explorer.
Man, everyone in this thread is acting like a bunch of…
Paedophiles?
Well, if nothing else, it is an interesting study of human behavior…
(Shrugs)
I love my two kids, and they rock. They have always been decent though, so I have had it good I admit. I actually enjoy them as people, not just becuase they are my kids.
I am just sad by how many people have had horrid experiences that have posted. (No doubt they have had bad experiences)
Also, I have noticed that there has been the child pervert card played here a few times… what the hell is wrong with you? (For those who have played it as a joke/jibe towards someone else.) Are you brain damaged? Why would you joke about something like this? Are you that incapable of making a joke in general that you have to go for the cheep and stupid humor; failing to realize that there may be those who have been through this, and it may well be painful for them? Do you know what it is like to be violated and degraded as a person because someone else decides to use you? Surely, you can do better…?
One thing I do see, is a lot of complaints about kids and how much they are a personal trial - Not a lot of talk about how a person has contributed to the long haul health of a child/children that you come in contact with. Lots of bitching about how kids are noisy and selfish, (Which they can be) but little understanding about how children grow and develop. Little interest in helping a child to become a healthy, well adjusted person…
Sad.
An interesting study in humanity…
I agree wholeheartedly.
I vowed to never have children, and yet have three… however… I wouldnt trade any for a moment of peace. (A prized goal of mine in case you dont know)
They are gems, precious diamonds and gold to my life. Kids here wont understand till they have one of their own.
I suppose…
An interesting study just the same.
I am reminded of the words of Roy Rogers…
“When I was sixteen, my father didn’t know anything… by the time I reached thirty, I was amazed at how much he had learned…”
Edit You know, I wonder how much of the “I do not want children” is really suppressed fear? Sometimes, our fears lie to us, so i am not judging or hacking anyone… just saying is all.
For me, the “I do not want children” was more about “I would rather spend time and money on me rather than someone else”. So for me it was based on extremely selfish reasoning. I am still learning to re-adjust my priorities. 
for me, I don’t want children cause I want to spend all my time and money on my wife. 
(I am smiling with sypathetic understanding)
You just had to say teh selfish word didn’t you… Oh sure… Deal in truth… (as I tweek and twist in both my skin and chair 
I am single, and prefer to be that way. There are of course other factors in my choice, but yup… I can be very selfish, and I rather enjoy it when it comes to what I do, when where and how. By nature, I am a very giving person so being selfish does not normally sit well… with being single, I rarely give it a second thought.
Kids do require a lot of giving, and lot of thinking, and trying to understand their perspective. As a parent, find myself all to happy to make sacrifices - I feel very fulfilled to be able to invest into their lives - that said, we are now at the stage where I have to start letting go, and letting them decide what they want. Thanks GOD they inherited their mother’s brains -
Not being able to handle and stand kids isn’t a valid reason not to have kids?
Whoa. No wonder this earth is filled with shitty parents.
I agree with Bolteh. That explains ALOT.
Bolteh,
Whoever said it wasn’t?
I merely point out that there is a lot of bitching about how bad kids are, and little talk about how understanding WHY kids do what they do, makes parenting so much better. That I should think, is why the earth is filled with horrid parents… (And therefor, bratty kids) Yes?
How many bad dogs in the world are the result of bad training? (Or for that matter, no training at all?)
Parenting is very important (Obviously) and being a good parent rarely happnens by accident. Being a good parents takes intelligence and thought - not bitching and wining that kids can sometimes be a challenge.
That my friend, is why there are so many messed up kids.
I agree, kids are like dogs. You need to discipline them, if you don’t, they always turn out bad.
Yes! You have just said likely the most important thing regarding this subject.
Of course there are other factors - consistancy, spending time to comunicate, explaining WHY you have this rule or that, (If the age will allow for it) And lots of love pacients. You really have to try and see things from your kid’s perspective as well.
I remember that once my daughter dropped a new package of tomatoes on the floor, and they went everywhere. She was bothered that she dropped them. I simply said “Sweetheart, it was an accident. It’s not likeyou did it on purpose”. Some parents would have a thrombowe. Somehow, a package of tomatoes does not really seem important enough to bitch at her - Her emotional state is more important. Now, if she would have thrown them on the floor and did a mexican hat dance on them… that would have been a different story.
My little sister goes ape-shit when she doesn’t want to listen to my parents, she just picks up any random item that looks throw-able and throws it in any random direction, while shouting elaborate insults at my parents (it used to be just screaming, kids do grow up fast!).
She thinks drawing is her job, she draws everywhere, she was drawing with a marker on the 27" HDTV, so my step-dad took the markers, after he stopped paying attention, she grabbed something sharp and made a drawing on the TV, permanently. (the lcd panel is broken)