Let us bitterly contemplate our failures

#181

Those kids wouldn’t be moving around if they were told by someone to not do it.

I can see your point about dyslexia, though, it doesn’t really fit with ADD/ADHD, since this actually happens when your brain gets fried over certain things. However, the initial point still stands. I wouldn’t be surprised if 9 out of 10 kids “diagnosed” with dyslexia, don’t have dyslexia at all, but are just too lazy and have parents that simply just don’t care enough about proper education.

ADD/ADHD, however, is an empty name. A name invented for shitty parents to try and find an excuse for sucking at parenting and failing to give their children proper ethics and morals.

#182

while those disorders are clearly real, I’d say a fair percentage use it as an excuse now adays (As horrible as that sounds), which is just a great big middle finger to all those who really do have it

#183

Considering I’m pretty much borderline abused by my dad, I’d have to say my parents probably had it easier than I do.

#184

Philip Larkin - This Be The Verse

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.

#185

Man, that verse rocks and is so full of truth.

#186

Change the “majority” to "minority’, and I might just agree with your post.

#187

I have no doubt that it’s a proper mental disorder. It still doesn’t justify the amount of people running around claiming they have ADD/ADHD, just because they do shit at school and their parents were too lazy to straighten them out.

I’m pretty sure that if you take 10 people with ADD/ADHD, 6-7 of them are just lazy twats with shitty parents (yes, I just claimed/guessed that about 60-70% of the people diagnosed are twats, and have no disorder of any kind, apart from being… well a twat).

But hey, be my guest if you want to feel good about yourself by “helping” those people.

PS: do note that I said nothing about autism, asperger’s, down’s and what not. Those are proper conditions that need special care. I’m talking about those “misdiagnosed” with ADD/ADHD. Hell, ADD/ADHD doesn’t even exist as far as I’m concerned. As I said before; it’s just an empty name, something somebody once came up with to explain bad parenting.

#188

Dim much? How would I have ADHD and how do you even make a conclusion like that?

#189

I was ‘diagnosed’ with autism and aspergers, even though their evidence was just me making my life easier. It’s always easy to diagnose somebody to have a disease when the mother cries.

#190

^ What he said.

I have no doubt that there’s people that have some sort of disorder, and it’s quite possible that you (SassyRobot) actually have it, but it still doesn’t change the mere fact that the last 10-15 years, A LOT of people seem to have it.

It’s like an entire generation of little Forest Gumps.

Oh, and I c what you did dar, clever gurl.

#191

You all complain too much.

#192

Well good for you that you have it. But this discussion isn’t about whether you have it or not. It’s about doctors throwing the diagnosis of ADD/ADHD around as if they were africans and the diagnose was AIDS.

Fuck, my aunt is pregnant of her fifth, the doctor already told her that the child will probably have ADHD, which wouldn’t surprise me, since the last 3 she “raised” also turned out to be complete idiots. If bad parenting is a proper symptom for a ADD/ADHD, then yes, fuckloads of people have it these days. But as far as I know (and hope), bad parenting isn’t a symptom.

Also, thanks for agreeing with me that those “disorders” are a fairly new player in the field of diagnostics. 40-50 years ago, people didn’t have ADD/ADHD, the unruly kids got straightened out, and if not, they ended up dead or in prison. Those two outcomes are loads better than diagnosing one with said disorder, and then let them have a normal life, without proper guidance and discipline.

#193

:frowning:

#194

Well, it might be different in the UK, but over here, it’s nearly impossible to find a class or school where more than half the children don’t have ADD/ADHD.

Some 14 year old punk cripples an elderly lady to steal her moneys, mother cries “sob sob he’s always been a difficult child sob sob”, judge sends him to a clinic where they will attempt to soften him up. Fuck that shit. To prison with that bastard.

#195

[COLOR=‘Red’]On topic.

#196

On topic. I hate too much.

But it just fees so good.

#197

What kind of shitty schools have you gone to :expressionless:

#198

mebe you should go back to the killing people thread. I think it was called population control or something. seriously, I know a few A.D.Ders and none of them go out and damage people or are problematic. There is a serious difference between someone who is cronically distracted and someone who’s an asshole. meybe you should go back and read about the disorder before you come in here and say that they should all be killed or in prison.

Heil, bolteh.

EDIT: ON TOPIC: I hurt my finger.

#199

mmmhhh blood cookies…

#200

Heil to you too.

I get easily distracted, especially when I was in school, or even now at work during meetings. Though I’ve learned to control it and I’ve learned to pay attention… I’ve learned it by discipline, I learned it the hard way with my parents punishing me some more when I came home with extra work due to not paying attention in class. Do I still get bored? Of course I do, but at least I’m paying attention. And I never had any doctor tell my mum that I have ADD or ADHD or whatever, simply because my mum didn’t QQ about it, she acted. And that’s where my point comes in. While they are existing disorders, a fuckton of people who claim to yhave it, are just lazy and have shit parents. Simple as that.

Do I claim that there’s no such thing as ADD, ADHD, autism, down’s, asperger’s? No I do not, people who actually have that need help and guidance, too bad that 60-70% of those that claim to have it, don’t have it at all, they just need a good kick in the back to get them going.

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