doctor doctor help whenever i look at reflective shades all i can see is a douchebag
The word ‘Aviators’ doesn’t refer to people that fly planes, but to the design style of the glasses. These glasses weren’t designed to be worn by pilots, they were designed to be marketed to a specific consumer/psychology to communicate a specific message. Certain social psychologies will interpret the sign value as the one intended by the wearer, other social psychologies will interpret the sign value differently.
EDIT: Just for fun and curiosity - I googled the terms ‘aviators’ and ‘douchebag’
ITT people waste their time on a pretentious douchebag.
Heh
Bitches don’t know about my Clubmasters.
way to be arrogant and condescending (and basically ignorant too)
sooooo basically you did get hookers (you paid for sex)
I think he means he used rohypnol.
Keep the Aviators - they fit you.
Most cultures tend to be developing, its what they do.
backwards assholes dont have digital cameras yet
he obviously meant as opposed to our superior and developed culture
Depends where in the world he was. Some parts of the middle east thats understandable.
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The word ‘Aviators’ doesn’t refer to people that fly planes, but to the design style of the glasses. These glasses weren’t designed to be worn by pilots, they were designed to be marketed to a specific consumer/psychology to communicate a specific message. Certain social psychologies will interpret the sign value as the one intended by the wearer, other social psychologies will interpret the sign value differently.
- Ok, the word Aviator DOES refer to pilots, although it is archaic, plus it NOWADAYS stands for glasses. (Are you a native speaker?)
https://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/341819/Charles-A-Lindbergh
- These glasses WERE designed to be worn by pilots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray-Ban_Aviator
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You are right about the marketing part (+ the fact that many people remember them from pilots and thus buying one makes many people feel as free as a pilot).
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And my question was exactly that: why are Aviators a sign that the person wearing them is a douche? Just because they are popular and thus statistically more douches wear them? How does simply inverting a sign value let you be any different than the “douches” wearing them originally (your assessment, not mine). I just value your opinion for what you wrote in the abortion thread. So nothing personal.
I am aware that ‘aviator’ means pilot - I meant that my use of the word ‘aviators’ didn’t refer to pilots but to sunglasses, and that I wasn’t saying that pilots were douchebags.
There isn’t just one design. The original design was used by WWII pilots for necessity. Since then they have been popular among American military in general. If you see a military guy wearing sunglasses, they’re an aviator-type design - and definitely not wraparounds or something designed by Bono.
They’ve also been popular for decades among cops. And recently, a fashion trend among shallow, bourgeois douchebags with a talent for separating parents from their money - and most recently among clueless bourgeois douchebags with a talent for being late to fashion trends. The term DBSG usually means Aviators.
They have a history of being associated with Right Wing Authoritarians - dicks. You can see this semiotic meaning reflected in popular culture. Films, for example: if a character is the amoral military guy, the dick cop, the security guard/wanna-be-cop, or the paranoid Right Wing nut with a huge arms cache in the basement - and the guy is wearing sunglasses, they’ll almost always be Aviators.
Look at the OP’s aviators. These weren’t designed for pilots, they were designed to sell to him. There must be dozens or hundreds of designs that were never intended to be used by pilots. You can buy them at Wal-Mart, Target,a mall kiosk, a roadside stand that sells aviators, belt buckles, and velvet Elvis paintings. It’s a popular design type and most of these weren’t designed for or marketed to pilots.
No, I don’t think that’s the marketing strategy, but maybe this is true for some buyers, I don’t know.
What?
They’re popular with military people, since they are very practical in battle. Thats why many military dictators wear them. I wouldn’t associate them with dictators though, or gun nuts. The only real associations you can make are with the aforementioned military and obnoxious people who are trying to be “cool”.
I don’t personally associate them with dictators, but now that you mention it, I can see that. I can remember some images of a few wearing aviators.
The strongest association I have is of cops - state troopers - who wear mirrored aviators.
I don’t associate them with gun nuts, but I do associate them with military wanna-be type guys.
Those examples in the other post were just film cliches that illustrate a semiotic meaning - Authoritarian, military, Right Wing.
None of this means that someone who wears aviators is a dick - although if you see a guy wearing aviators in a bar or a party at midnight, he’s a douchebag.
But not as much as giving Third World women food in exchange for sex, which makes someone a major fucking douchebag,
I understand now, I think. You say that Aviators make people wearing them look like douches because these people are often desperately trying to gain status and/or attention by wearing them and thereby valuing their pseudo-symbolic meaning over their practical function.
Still they are just glasses. I would not read too much negative symbolic meaning into them either…
are you seriously having a discussion on sunglasses?
Yup. Welcome to BM, land of the unimportant.