HL2:D & Black Mesa

Technically, you’re obviously just being picky about what words people use.

Also, I have to agree on the Orange Box thing. I first played all the Orange Box games on the PS3, but they’re all much much better on the PC. It’s only 30 bucks, just go for it.

Technically you are paying for more than that. Obviously you have to buy a source game, but evidently, you need to pay for a computer as well as electricity, and a residence or office to house you computer and electricity in. And don’t get me started on property taxes. All of that just to play a little old total conversion of an ancient “revolutionary” game.

I want to play Black Mesa so bad…

We all do, my friend, we all do…

You must have a computer to play Black Mesa, so it’s not free (sarcasm).

Right. I like Team Fortress 2, but I happen to have Counter Strike. I’ll play some of that and see if I like it.

Mind you, if a package comes out with Ep3 and Portal 2, I will be buying that.

Also one needs a place to put your PC, a residence to have your own electricity (which in its self will also cost money) and also residential, electrical, and Computer Maintenence.

all in all, Black Mesa will come to aproximately over $9,000 dollars.

This is coming from a cockroach but… can we get back to topic? I have Counter Strike, will be playing that, are there any significant differences between it and CS :s ?

EDIT: OK, I hate Counter Strike. Is Source any better?

Unless graphics make the game for you, no.

Actually, I seem to remember CS and CS: S feeling pretty different.

I prefer CSS to CS1.6. Don’t know why, I just can’t get into the older version.

The gameplay is more or less the same. Same weapons, same maps, same rules.
The feeling is a bit different. Some players like CSS because the graphics are up to date, but there are some gamers that didn’t like the changes beetwen the two versions. My favorite CS is Condition Zero. If you are really looking for something different, you should play TF2. The main advantage of CSS is that you can play offline, with Bots.

you can also play with bots in CS 1.6.

They’re not exactly the same game, but if you don’t like CS1.6, CSS isn’t going to change your mind that much.

Condition Zero was awesome, and the Xbox “port” should’ve had the single player content (Deleted Scenes, the “special scenarios”) that CZ had. Oh well, I never played it anyhow.

I’ve been playing CS since the late nineties (not quite when it came out, but when 1.6 was extremely popular), CZ was a step above because I could play a game with one other individual, and the bots would fill in the server providing an extra component that I didn’t have when I wasn’t able to connect to the internets. CS:S was even better simply because of the graphical upgrades, and seeing my old favorites remade gave me a geek-out session like no other. Though, I do miss some of my favorite maps from CZ, but I’ve never really gotten around to playing it again.

Since I’ve been playing CS since forever ago, it was getting old (but not old enough to quit – community support {maps} is phenomenal), I needed something different, and TF2 and L4D provided that niche I needed. However, my computer can’t handle the “new” Source games, so I’m left with playing CS on my computer while I play the OB and L4D on the 360. It’s not bad, but not superior than the mouse and keyboard.

I don’t know who said it but, if you play a PC FPS online with a gamepad instead of the mouse/keyboard config, you’re gonna die. You gonna die hard.

Um… OK then, I think I’ll be going for TF2. Thanks for all the help!

Just one last question: if you actually buy Half Life 2: Deathmatch, you should be able to play BM, right ?

Check the list of “Includes Source SDK” games here:
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=16

HL2-DM can be bought for 3.99 Euro. The game details contain info: “Includes Source SDK”.
So buying HL2-DM will be enough to play BM, right ??

You’re absolutely right. Yes.

and one more other thing. What about GMod? will it be better to buy TF2 or CSS for it?

I thought you said you were getting TF2!?

Founded in 2004, Leakfree.org became one of the first online communities dedicated to Valve’s Source engine development. It is more famously known for the formation of Black Mesa: Source under the 'Leakfree Modification Team' handle in September 2004.