It is exactly the same thing as “not being an Atheist,” or more specifically not having an anti-religious or anti-Christian bias. Which is what we’re talking about.
I can believe in a higher power and still have an anti-Christian bias. I just have to name my higher power Allah, for instance.
im gonna go with evolution, it makes more sense to me.
why him exactly ?
Please tell me why, I’m very curious.
But the thing is, those things aren’t scripturally sound. If someone told me that they are now a Christian because of an event like that, I would explain to them that that is no reason to believe in God. I would then proceed to show them what is.
Christ mattemuse. No one here is an atheist out of rebellion against Christianity. Barely anyone is even overtly Christian here to begin with.
If someone here is an atheist, he is one because he doesn’t believe in god. He may change his beliefs later on or whatever, but he’s not going to “grow out of it” as if atheism is some sort of pubescent hormonal imbalance.
Because he does not believe in God, therefore thinks that two humans popping out of nowhere is just ridiculous. And that is the same for me.
Even if the Darwinian Evolution Theory is just a theory, it’s still based on proven facts.
You want me to provide proof that something you say exists, but have no evidence of, doesn’t? Shouldn’t it be your responsibility to provide me with evidence, not the other way around? If I make an amazing claim, is it not my responsibility to offer evidence when someone asks for it. Especially when it is expected they they should believe my claim is true?
I would like to point out that I don’t suggest your claims aren’t true, but rather I don’t think they are because there is no evidence of it being true.
Just an example - cause I know at least 19 worshippers of Allah who were anti-Christian, apparently.
You have yet to present us with your convincing evidence of the existence of God. Before that I think noone owes you an explanation of his disbelief in God.
I totally understand what you mean, but that would only be the case if I were trying to convince you of something and not the other way around.
IMO you did, so you should. Unless you’re saying I shouldn’t believe you, in which case disregard this post.
I agree with you completely; no one does owe me any explanation of their disbelief in God. I was simply asking someone to in order to convince me because I really want to make sure what I believe is correct. If someone were to ask me to present my evidence that has convinced me of Christianity because they’re willing to believe and want to know what’s correct, then I would.
When u looks at things, there is a lot more evidence to support that life evolved over time from basic primitive single-celled organisms to the complex multi-celled organisms we see today, as opposed to everything we know and see today spontaneously appearing on Earth in a matter of 7 days. Also if it makes u fell better ima Roman Catholic.
There’s a HD video on YouTube that is about 50 minutes long, a psychiatrist explains why humanity develops religious beliefs and such, he explains it rather easily. It was very interesting but I forgot the link, if anyone has it please post it.
You can always just summarize it for us, since it was so convincing to you. Plus, I think its easier to have a discussion that way.
Okay. I cannot promise you that I will be willing to believe (only if your evidence is convincing), but yes, I really want to know what’s correct. So I bid you enlighten me, if you can. And not in a sarcastical way. I really wanna know what evidence of God’s existence you have. Just a few limitations, due to my atheism:
Passages of the Bible do not count as truth or evidence for me, because they are not backed by real evidence, e.g. a significant number of contemporary writings from different authors who lived at Jesus’ time and knew him or knew of him and wrote about something that has happened in the New Testament. As far as I know, the Bible is a compilation of religious myths and morality tales and contains only distant echoes of real historical events in some of it’s tales.
Circular logic also doesn’t count as truth for me. “A rose is a rose because it is a rose” is nothing but nonsense.
Oh, and the absence of counter-evidence doesn’t prove a claim, I hope you agree with that.
Forensic evidence would be most impressive. Meaning proof that isn’t based on the statements of certain human beings, but speaks for itself. As in a crime investigation, where marks are found on the victim’s neck and parts of the victim’s skin are found under the fingernails of the murderer, thus proving he must have strangeled him or her, disproving false witnesses who claim it was someone else.
Asking too much of you? Well, evidence for God’s existence should be very convincing to convert a scientist to the Christian faith. And of course, it should be scientifically convincing.
You know, that almost sounds like you’re insulting my beliefs. Seriously, did we strike a cord on you, or do you act this way to all atheist/agnostics?
Now you’re starting to try to insult atheism/agnosticism. Do you really think this is all just a teenage phase? do you seriously think we’re wrong, and it’s something people grow out of?
You sound like an ass.
Yes, I am agnostic, do you have a problem with the beliefs that we have in this forum?
I’d like to see that evidence.
Please show me that evidence.
I don’t have speakers, care to summarise why you think humanity develops religious beliefs? Its an interesting topic.
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Here is all my posts in this thread:
So what claims have I made that you would like evidence to back up exactly?
This is starting to sound like I’m talking to a scientologist where I can’t find out the “truth” unless I get into it. Please, show me that reason and the evidence that is the basis for your reason to believe, and don’t ignore this because it’s starting to sound like a secret club where I’m not allowed to be in on your little secret.