SOVIET CITIES ON THE MOON?
“Science without religion Is Lame. Religion without science Is Blind.” A. Einstein
And yet, when they mix, it ain’t pretty. Einstein is right, but I’m not willing to let Catholics to get full of themselves just by finding clues to other life out there…
They won’t they’re just wasting their time.
Eistein was brilliant, but he was raised religious, and sometimes no matter how smart you are it can be difficult to break free from your upbringing. He was raised religious and remained religious because he was brainwashed.
That’s a really one-sided view. To call one of the most scientific minds (which shouldn’t even be possible if he’s religious, according to you) brainwashed is simply retarded. He wasn’t brainwashed, he was aknowledging the fact that there are two sides to the coin, and in a perfect world they co-exist. Some people are just too simple minded to realize that.
I’m not religious at all. But I’m a Utalitarian, and I firmly believe people should be able to do as they please. So you have every right to bash religious folk, just as they have every right to conduct worship.
But that also means I can call you a simple-minded nut who sees enemies where there are none.
EDIT: And the fuck did religion do to you? Rape you in your bed?
It’s human nature to argue your point if you think you are right. I fell I’m right and religion is wrong, thus I argue that point.
Feynmen is a genius too, and far far from religious. I admit I really don’t know too much about Einstein and I guess I really can’t say anything about his upbringing, but I can say that Religion and science are opposites, they don’t coexist. Science seeks to explain as much as possible using thought, religion seeks to explain things using what sounds pretty/justifies your actions/makes you fell important/just about anything that appeals to emotions and not logic. I’m speaking generally so it may not be completely true for all of religion, but I know it is somewhat true for your brand of religion.
So maybe religion doesn’t perfectly explain everything.
Science doesn’t either. Explain why the Big Bang happened? Where did the ball of mass come from if there was nothing before it?
On to life, where did the first cell come from? If you answer that it formed in the primordial soup filled with organic molecules, what gave that first cell the will to thrive and survive, however small that will was?
Can quarks be further broken down? What are these smaller molecules?
Sure, there are theories to explain these things. But, then again, religion has theories too, except they are called beliefs.
In the beginning, evolution was a theory that could get you lynched. Guess who Darwin was. A very religious man. Go figure.
Guesswork is involved in both cases.
Also, I think I understand Einstein. Religion is the center of all theories. Science is the center of all calculation and experiment. Both overlap and coexist in a balanced world, and if we didn’t have this sharp line drawn maybe we could allow them to and finally see what may have alluded our eyes thus far.
EDIT: And I have no religion. I argue for it because I believe everyone has a right to follow whatever they want and no one else seems to want to do it. =/
IMO: religion.
I don’t know what the websters definition of religion is and I don’t care, so don’t qoute it. I said IMO.
The difference is mainstream religions such as Christianity CLAIM they know everything, science admits that there are things we don’t know. And most people when they have a “belief” they treat there beliefs as facts and if you asked them they would say they are facts.
I don’t think anything I say is a fact, but I believe it strongly enough that I will risk eternal damnation on it.
Also, I hope you don’t get too frustrated with me, to tell you the truth, I quite enjoy arguing, I see it as a game or a sport, so lets both try to keep this from degrading into a flame war.
cripes, why is it people open Religion threads in an international forum.:facepalm:
Nothing is worth it just because it is cool. Besides, based on our current technological development, just where the fuck do you think you’ll go? The moon is the only thing close enough for us to travel to without coming back five years later, and its a dead rock with 0 atmo, just like most of the universe. Fact about the universe: It’s big, dead, and boring. Traveling faster than light gets you nowhere and any other forms of travel are looking quite impossible, but why would you want to travel anywhere? Every damn corner of this fucking universe looks exactly the same. There is an infinite/infinite chance that there is another form of life out there, but there is so much damn room in infinity, that we wouldn’t be able to see them if we did know where they are, due to their entire sky moving c+ away from us so their light will never, ever reach us. The sooner this universe ends, the fucking better.
GODDAMN SPACE :’(
Perhaps a little to pesemistic, but yes, more or less. There is a very very high chance that there’s other life and other intelligent life but we’re never gonna find it unless there’s some tiny bits of bacteria or something unimportant somewhere near us.
We’re never gonna get the technology to go anywhere out of our solar system. Even if it is possible to achieve that technology mankind will never be around long enough to discover it.
Exactly. Just because some of my friends are vegetarian doesn’t mean that I am going to shove a slab of steak in their face and force feed them, or that they will strip my fridge of all meat products. Coexist, muthafuckas.
Considering that the Catholic church has been trying to modernise itself recently, this seems like a logical move for them. At least they’re not stuck in the dark ages like some religions.