Charity, yay or nay?

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Also,

I sure wish I were an hero right now

Oh no, a typo. Help, help! Whatever shall I do to redeem myself now.

… By getting the fuck out of the forums?

Nah, I like it here.

Fun fact: so far most of the people that call me a “monster” (more or less), are the ones that are downright insulting and demeaning in their comments towards my views on charity.

Makes me wonder who the bad people actually are. The rude and insulting ones that give to charity so they can feel satisfied, or the friendly/timid (yet edgy at times) guy that doesn’t support charity out of principle.

I like helping other people, that’s why I’m donating my blood, my bone marrow and my organs (the organs only after death, of course).

I also sometimes donate my to certain organisations, but only if I can be sure that the money serves its purpose. That means I do not donate money to africa, because my money is not used by some child to buy food or school books, but by a warlord who buys AK-47s, which is not what I want.

And actually my friends and I will start our own charity next month, we sell stuff donated by Metal bands on eBay and give the money to a local sheltered workshop. :slight_smile:

If only it were that simple to categorize people like that. I’ve donated to charitys I’ve thought worth while, never metioned it, never even really thought about it till now, just felt like it was the right thing to do, so I do it. There are no “good” men in the world no matter how small we all have a spec of dirt on our soul, but a little bit of chairty every now and again doesn’t hurt anyone, instead it just helps and will put a smile on at least one persons face, if you don’t think thats worth it then I really do pity you

It depends on who you are donating to, some charties do incredible work in africa, building schools, taps closer to peoples homes and so on

He does raise a good point, you guys are certainty over-reacting to his views. He has a different view of humanity and the principle of charity, that’s no reason to call him a monster or a dick. He has made several posts stating that he helps people who he can realistically and tangibly help.

It seems his way of thinking reflects a much more pessimistic view of humanity where you guys seem to reflect a much more optimistic view.

None the less, you should focus your hate and dissatisfaction with the people who instill the weak and poor in their dire situations, not someone who isn’t in a position to solve the problem.

I called you a simple soul (not a moron), because around these parts, a simple soul is someone who believes anything, no questions asked. Yes, this was a “shot” at you and how you measure with two weights with your charity work, but it wasn’t a downright attack.

Yes, I believe most charities are selfish, idiotic, foolish and a lot of those that support them are either gullible or arrogant and/or ignorant. This thread (well, pretty much just you) enforced my believes on this matter.

I have no business in calling someone names for what they believe in, unlike you and your bowl of soup. All I can do is describe my general feeling towards a charity and its crowd.

Maybe it’s just you.

And my observation towards the “charity-loving haters” and the “charity-hating lover” has nothing to do with care, but it has everything to do with amusement.

And what words should I have used in this context anyway?
Selfish -> “those that only care about themselves”?
Idiotic/gullible -> “those that don’t ask questions and just join in”?
Arrogant -> “those that are smug about what they do and disrespect anyone else”?
Ignorant -> “those that live in a shroud of safety that don’t want to see anything else but their perfect ideal”?

I prefer using the words tbh, saves me a lot of typing.

And then compare those words used to describe a certain emotion/feeling/idea to “moron”, “dickweed”, “retard”, “bastard”, “cunt”, “cock”. It’s descriptive versus downright insults.

I’m just gonna come out and say charity is a good thing once in a while, like on christmas or during times that are tough on other people. But If you do it all the time you are an attention whore and aren’t even thinking of the people you are trying to help. Your only thinking, “Hey if I give some people some money it will make me look like a good person!”

I wanted to make this thread to find out if I was one of the few that doesn’t believe in the point of charity. I also did this on another forum and most of the people there agreed with most of my views. On this forum I seem to be one the very few that fails to see the point of charity.

And while I haven’t strayed from my original point, I did find out why some people support charities. So I can kinda see why people support charities, but I haven’t been “converted” and still can’t see a reason why I personally should participate.

you should be glad that we have such generous members. I mean you are on the internet. The sea of assholes and pricks.

Or maybe you just want to be a charitable person? You’d be an asshole if you were only charitable at certain times, because the only reason you’d be doing it is so you didn’t look like a jerk.

It does accomplish something though. Like I said earlier on

I’m also scared of needles and am very underweight, yet I try to donate every three months. I don’t always manage due to some medical reasons, but I try just the same.

That’s an extremely childish view, and is exactly the same as those you were accusing of donating to feel good. You see someone in person in trouble, you help them. Brilliant, you managed to help an old lady cross the road or you made your brother a sandwich. If you donated in whatever way, it’s likely that you’d help many, many more people in far more substantial ways. Yet you don’t, and why? Because you can’t see them. This is the view of a toddler, a child.

You can’t just help people if you see them, you either help as much as you can or don’t help at all.

Also, pretty much everyone with people close to them would go through fire for those people. If they wouldn’t, I wouldn’t call them ‘close’.

You missed the point of what I was saying.

That’s where you’re wrong. I see charities all around me. There’s a sheltered workshop just down the road and there’s one smack right next to my work. When I go to work, I pass a shelter for homeless people. I see images and videos and live feeds of starving kids daily (though this probably doesn’t count as “seeing them”).

Not seeing or witnessing the misery in the world has nothing to do with me not supporting. My issue is that I just fail at seeing the use in all those charities I see. Offer me a charity of which I can say “god damn, that’s a good cause”, and I’ll most likely support it no matter how far away. But alas, the only charity that I’ve encountered so far that I’d be willing to support, is blood donation (and I’ve explained that before (and yes, I black out when a needle comes close to my skin)). Granted, I’m not actively looking out for new charities to explore.

So you see helping an old lady up as a worthwhile act of charity, but not helping to save countless people’s lives?

I’m sorry that I’m too lazy to look back, but to whoever said that Donating blood wasn’t charity because you are “compensated”, What? How is literally giving a part of your body not up to par with writing a check?

I understand you may get the afternoon off, or a water after you donate, but those are due to health and safety issues, not compensation. These become very important if your job involves hazards like operating heavy machinery or dealing with electricity.

Makes me think he’s a hypocrite, it seems :frowning:

Also, I don’t get compensated for giving blood. What countries do they do that in?

if you have a union job in the united states, the union usually negotiates a deal with the employer and blood bank to have a donation at the work facility and give those who donated certain “benefits”, Though 9/10 employers (most employers in the US do not have unions.) simply give you a half day or 1-2 hours off.

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